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Sunday June 09, 2002
06:23 AM

Holidays

[ #5518 ]

One of the problems with considering a return to permanent employment after seven years as a freelancer is the amount of holiday time you get (or rather, the lack of holiday time you get).

For the last seven year I've been taking holidays whenever I want. I estimate that I've had about six weeks off a year on average. I haven't really had to think about it. I just take the time off and the client doesn't pay me for those days.

Now I have to consider dealing with the UK standard holiday entitlement of four weeks[1]. I've already got five weeks planned for the second half of this year, so it seems like a lot of that will need to be curtailed :(

[1] I realise, of course, that this seems like heaven to people in other parts of the world.


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  • five weeks is more usual, in my experience.
  • It's pretty hard when you move from the uk to the us. I get 0.83 days off a month (10 a year) in the first year, building to 15 next year.

    This seems quite depressing when people get 20-25 off back home. Though I can always take time off unpaid I guess.

    This is kinda a moot point because I've only taken 1 day off in the 8 months I have been here and that was the 26th of Dec as it isn't a holiday here :)

    • .. and we have felt that 6 weeks was too little and have gotten an ekstra week this year...
      But then we do deserve it with our harsh schedule of 34 hours/week ;-)

      Vacancies? Yes, we do have some, but it's in Denmark.

  • so take some unpaid leave on top of your paid leave.

    • It's a possibility. But given that I'm already taking a 50% cut in income to go permie, I'm not sure I can afford to do that :)

      • I work in the City (London) and I went Permie late last year after 7 years of contracting. While the money decrease is a pain, IR35 was such a nightmare that I'm happier out of it. Maybe I'm just lucky but I have 30 days annual leave :-) But I don't think that's unusual in the financial sector. Whereas contractors have had to take pay cuts of between 10-20% in a lot of the bigger banks. The way I feel at the moment is that I just got out in time.
  • My current job is the first I've ever had where I got more than two. I have three. I'm treating it like I've gotten a precious commodity, don't want to spend it rashly.

    My father has six weeks, but he's worked for the same company for 35 years to get it.

    A friend of mine decided a while ago that he needed four weeks minimum. He negotiated with his employer when he was hired for a higher salary than he needed, then said, "I'll make you a deal. I'll trade cash for vacation." And traded a few thousand dollar

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