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Monday December 03, 2007
05:59 PM

Todays Vienna.pm TechSocial

We had another TechSocial Meeting in Vienna - taking place on 1st monday of every month. First Willy showed using Perl for emulating heavy (really tons of) hardware - very impressive. Second talk by domm was an intro to Perl 5.10.

The pub (remember TechScocial) did e.g. provide 'Perlhuhnbrust' on the menue, but we didn't ask if it were of the 5.10 persuasion.

The smart match operator lead to immediate discussion, whether there exists a 'not-smart-operator' or rather a 'smart-not-operator' or their combination:

$foo !~~ /bar/; # not smart aka dumb match

Would this maybe match every chicken or rather not?

$foo ~!~ /bar/; # smart no match
$foo !~!~ /bar/; # no dumb match

... which immediately lead to a discussion of the orthogonality of the not operator, which generally was considered as very important. E.g. is this valid syntax, and what does it mean:

not my $var;

Semantically it's a promise not to use this variable in that scope. But perl has a different POV

$ perl -Mstrict -Mwarnings -le'not my $var'
Useless use of not in void context at -e line 1.

OTOH ...

$ perl -Mstrict -Mwarnings -le'print not my $beer'
1

$ perl -Mstrict -Mwarnings -le'print ! my $beer'
1

... there are some 'true' items, which aren't your beer. But ...

$ perl -Mstrict -Mwarnings -le'print $_->ignore for not our @beer'
Can't call method "ignore" without a package or object reference at -e line 1.

... you can't actually ignore all of them.

Sunday September 10, 2006
02:57 PM

P3 - Parrot Presentation Program

As outlined in the previous journal entry, I'm writing a new presentation tool using Parrot. It now has hit the parrot svn repository.

A basic presentation (written in html) about P3 itself can be found here (sorry - the svn server is delivering this as text/plain).

Tuesday September 05, 2006
05:41 PM

Parrot can do AJAX too!

Above subject is shamelessy stolen from Jonathan, who has used it on IRC. Anyway, I got bored by doing my presentations with

$ ./parrot slpod.imc yapc.pod

... or some such. I wrote the predecessor of that at YAPC::EU::2003 during lunch break and the slides at dinner (no, that isn't a joke) and it caused a lot of fun at these days.

But in recent times all has to be AJAX, hasn't it? Alas, I started hacking examples/io/httpd.pir to support a CGI GET request, which is invoking Parrot subroutines, and put together 60 lines of JavaScript dealing mainly with keyboard requests to navigate between slide pieces and to send XMLHttpRequests. The XML thingy is totally optional, don't be afraid, plain text messages or html snippets are working fine too - and that's what the next slide presentation program will use.

Given that your GET request delivers a valid HTML snippet, and you got e.g. <div id="answer"></div> on your html page, then all you need to fill this with contents is mainly this JavaScript two-liner:

var x = document.getElementById('answer');
x.innerHTML = req.responseText;

That's almost it. I'll put together a working example in the parrot repo during the next days.

Monday September 04, 2006
10:50 AM

YAPC::EU::2006 Parrot BOF

About 10 (more or less) parrots flocked together in the lobby of Jury's Inn Hotel at Wednesday. The topics were:

  • Parrot on VMS (VAX). The Vaxman and Martin, who has already sent a patch to p6i, are hopefully continuing this story.
  • JIT for the x86_64 architecture
  • Perl5 continuations. I discussed parrot's implemenation and some implications mainly with Nick.
  • Parrot interfaces. Allison and me went through a more flexible concept extending the current static vtable layout.
Saturday February 18, 2006
04:12 PM

Parrot: if vs. unless

Parrot provides two opcodes to branch on the truthness of a register: if and unless. It looks like that it's just a matter of taste, which one to use. Is it really?

Not with modern CPUs with branch prediction rules and with JIT code inside tight inner loops. Below are two versions of the ackermann function, one written with if and one using unless. (If you are missing the loop in the code, well, that's coming from tailcall optimization, turned on with -Oc.)

$ cat ack-if.pir
.sub ack
  .param int x
  .param int y
  if x goto a1
    inc y
    .return (y)
a1:
  if y goto a2
    dec x
    .return ack(x, 1)
a2:
  dec y
  y = ack(x, y)
  dec x
  .return ack(x, y)
.end

$ cat ack-unless.pir
.sub ack
  .param int x
  .param int y
  unless x goto a1
  unless y goto a2
  dec y
  y = ack(x, y)
  dec x
  .return ack(x, y)
a1:
  inc y
  .return (y)
a2:
  dec x
  .return ack(x, 1)
.end

And here are the timings of both with ./parrot -Oc -Cj ack-xx.pir 12 on an AMD X2@2000:

ack-if      2.9 s
ack-unless  2.4 s

Branches with positive branch offsets (downwards) are considered to be likely not taken, that is the fall-through case is the default one. As there are a lot more positive numbers than the one zero, the unless is the better choice here (for some CPUs, YMMV). Well, that's at least my conclusion for now. But there is another issue: branch alignment. I've not yet experimented with different label alignments, but I know that alignment can cause timing differences like above too.

Wednesday February 08, 2006
11:56 AM

Parrot -Ofun

Heureka - from the -Ofun department

Or - running the ackermann function (and possibly other recursive functions) really fast.

$ time ./parrot -Oc -C ack.pir 11
Ack(3, 11) = 16381

real 0m0.567s
user 0m0.559s
sys 0m0.008s

$ time ./ack 11
Ack(3,11): 16381

real 0m0.980s
user 0m0.978s
sys 0m0.002s

The latter is optimized C code. Parrot is recompiling (or will do when that's finished) statically known and simple PIR code to native machine code via it's JIT system.

See also a recent post on perl6-internals.

Sunday January 08, 2006
11:11 AM

Parrot 0.4.1 "Foghorn Leghorn" Released!

Numerous folks contributing more than 640 revisions were helping to create a more powerful bird err parrot.

Thanks all!

Sunday December 04, 2005
11:53 AM

Parrot 0.4.0 "Luthor" Released!

Numerous people have contributed to another major release of Parrot: 0.4.0 'Luthor' is out - thanks to all.

The release name is of course not related to this article, but comes from our brand new lexical stuff.

Monday November 07, 2005
06:24 PM

"The Continuation Bug" is gone

Today I've checked in the final fix for one of the longest outstanding bugs inside Parrot.

A short recap:

Having first-class continuation objects is one of the design goals of Parrot. A lot of HLLs support continuations with some special syntax and with continuations in the core a lot of HLL control structures and features like exceptions can be implemented easily.

But there was a problem with continuations. Continuations can change the CFG (control flow graph) of a program in such a way that there are suddenly loops, where the register allocation code isn't (and can't be) aware of it.

The following code piece from a test provided by Piers revealed the whole problem:

arr1 = "[1, 3, 5]"
arr2 = "[1, 5, 9]"
x = choose(arr1)
y = choose(arr2)
if (x * y != 15)
fail = find_lex "fail"
fail()

To the register allocator this looks like a linear control flow, which is just executed once (there is no loop outside of that code snippet). But actually the choose closures are capturing their continuations and are backtracking through the call to the fail function. We suddenly have a loop going from fail() to one of the choose() function call returns. The code that the register allocator should have been considering would be something like this:

  arr1 = "[1, 3, 5]"
  arr2 = "[1, 5, 9]"
choose_again_1: # label actually in front of function return
  x = choose(arr1)
choose_again_2:
  y = choose(arr2)
  if (x * y != 15)
  fail = find_lex "fail"
  fail()
  goto choose_again_1 or _2

This implies that the registers of the variables x, y, arr2 can't be reused for example to assign a register to the fail variable. But exactly this has happened and the code really "fail"ed.

There were some (IMHO) impractical proposals to fix this, like refetching all variables from lexicals all the time (and don't use native integers and numbers because these aren't lexicals) but the real fix for this is now in: that is - just don't reallocate the registers used by lexicals and non-volatile variables to other variables like temporaries.

That's the reason for variable-sized register frames and, well, some lack of visible progress of Parrot development for some time.

Sunday November 06, 2005
08:54 AM

Parrot 0.3.1 "Wart" Released!

After more than 400 revisions within one month the next release of Parrot has arrived on CPAN.

Thanks to all providing patches and help us with developing Parrot.