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  • Ingy, you live simply because you can. Others have families or don't want to live in tree houses. If those who want to devote lots of time to Perl 6 find out that they have to feed their kids instead, the community's poorer for it. Right now it looks like we'll lose Leo and he's been a huge force behind Perl 6 work. That's gonna hurt.

    If you find that getting paid for open source work doesn't work for you, that's fine, but doesn't mean others are in such a luxurious position. Personally, I feel Damian

    • I didn't mean to offend anyone, but then again I didn't try hard not to either. =)

      At the risk of being more offensive, let me state further what clearly is only my opinion.

      I'm not so sure that it is going to "hurt" to "lose" Leo. Hurt. What does that mean anyway? And are we really "losing" him? He's not dying. He just chose to invest a lot of his time doing something which I imagine was immensely satisfying. And he probably ran out of funds and needs to feed his family. That's OK. He should do that. He ca
      • I am completely at a loss to understand how your list of real world facts relates to the issue at hand. It seems to me that the issue is: the Perl Foundation would like to fund some developers. You seem to be arguing against funding. Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean that it doesn't work. I have absolutely no problem with you saying you don't want to donate. You've contributed plenty in many other ways and I and others appreciate that, but I just don't understand why you're trying to d

      • But is it the one true way to get to the end of the Journey?

        Nope. There's always more than one way to do it.

        My main point is that there isn't a required timeline on Perl6.

        Yup. Exactly. With various permutations and combinations, the various paths are basically:

        1. Development continues as it has. Developers come and go. Perl 6 is released.
        2. Some funding comes in. We use it to get a little more developer time. Perl 6 is released sooner.
        3. Companies hire Perl 6/Parrot developers, let them do open source
  • Too hectic for your family oriented life style? Maybe you aren't cut out for this.

    Or have a bunch of kids, homeschool them, and train the ones who are interested to be programmers. :)

    J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
    • I have to admit, while I like Ingy, I found that comment of his to be offensive. There's an implication that if someone has a family and wants to spend time with them, they shouldn't be doing open source. That's probably not what Ingy meant, but that's what I read.

      • Hmm, I see your point. I could have found it sort of offensive, but I took it mostly as a statement that if you became really committed to a project, your family time might suffer, and that if you were a committed family man, you might want to rethink your project goals.

        J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
  • I just got funded by TPF. I think it works for me in a way, because now I know I have to finish in a finite amount of time. Otherwise I get distracted with other stuff. And the money at least will help me pay for some expenses like hosting, goint to YAPC, etc... So I don't think is that bad for all people.

    Of couse, I just got the funding, so I'll let you know in a few months if it was really good for me. :)

  • "...if I had it all?" sings Dave Matthews in a song. As the economists say, we live in a world of limited resources. Individuals are limited by many factors in life with time being chief amongst them. There is nothing limiting anyone with a family from working on open source day and night, assuming they spend no time with their families. To me, however, ingy is simply stating the fact that people without families have much more disposable time to burn than those with families.

    That, however, doesn't mea