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All the Perl that's Practical to Extract and Report

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  • I took their Perl test some time (years) ago as a hoot. When I suddenly became a "certified Perl programmer" I thought.. "Now what?". Do I ask for a raise? Do I now look for a new job as Director Of Perl?

    I've never been asked if I was a "certified" Perl programmer while job hunting. I've never been asked to take a BrainBench test, or if I had taken it. I have also never asked an interviewee if they have taken this test. I have, however, used a print out of The Seven Stages of a Perl Programmer [jwenet.net] (tchrist, cri
    • We've already had some discussion of whether Larry would have to endorse a certification suite to make it work; see this page [perlocity.org]; patches welcome!
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      Dr. Tim Maher
      CEO, Consultix
      Perl and UNIX Training [teachmeperl.com]
      • That's not really a discussion, that's you writing something :-) Larry doesn't _need_ to endorse it, but someone does, in my opinion. If there isn't an endorsing body, then anyone can make a "certification" test and nobody will know what the validity of those tests are.

        What would stop me from making the "Meltzer Super Duper Perl Certification Exam", charging people $20 to take it, giving them a certificate with a gold star and my signature? Nothing. And, what would make that exam less valid than BrainBench
        • by yumpy (1032) on 2005.08.29 15:17 (#42951) Homepage
          "The proof of the pudding is in the tasting."

          If your test really helped hiring managers separate the JAPHly wheat from the chaff, word would get around, and your test would acquire a favorable reputation, and possibly become a de facto standard. Which is as it should be; the users of a certification service should determine the success or failure of a certification suite.

          Consider the chain called "Seattle's Best Frozen Yogurt" -- their name sounds very impressive, but I'll take Ben & Jerry's product over theirs any time, because, despite their lame name (say that 3 times fast!), the latter has a sterling reputation that's well deserved.

          Just as Apache, Ebay, and Google became famous for providing valuable services reliably, without any "celebrity endorsements", a Perl certification service could do the same.

          But don't get me wrong--I'm not saying that it wouldn't be advantageous for Larry, or Damian, or Ingy, or perhaps even Spongebob to endorse a fledgeling Perl Certification suite, but that might not be realistic to expect.

          On the other hand, don't you think the PR buzz for a Perl Certification suite developed by actual working JAPHs, for the benefit of their community, would have a lot of appeal to corporate hiring types -- who are used to relying instead on large corporations with vested business and financial interests in flogging a particular technology?

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          Dr. Tim Maher
          CEO, Consultix
          Perl and UNIX Training [teachmeperl.com]
          • Let me say I haven't read through your whole site. I know I did after we met when I hosted YAPC. I'll need to see if my ideas mesh with yours.. feel free to point me to places in your wiki where I may need to read.

            First real question is if certs are needed at all. Who asks for a Perl certification out of a perspective employee? I'm also not really sure what a cert would do. I may have missed it, but what I really see from your effort is similar to BrainBench. You take a test, you pass, you get a certifica