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  • Hm. I think I'm beginning to see where you're getting your anti-Israeli perspective.

    Isreal is blockading palestine and ghettoising it, imposing curfews, roadblocks and rocket or tanks assaults on civilians.

    But no mention that Israel has been in a state of war for over 50 years, and been targeted by a continual stream of suicide bombers for the past few years.

    Somehow, I don't think you would be so indignant if London were under perpetual attack by Foobari martyrs wearing suicide jackets -- in the pu

    • by TeeJay (2309) on 2003.05.21 4:41 (#20344) Homepage Journal
      This I states that its only the terrorists who are interested in continuing the conflict.

      Unfortunately there are many in the government and the army who would rather the conflict continue, and continues to cost palestine more than isreal in both money and lives, than pull out of occupied areas, allow repatriation and take the settlements out.

      The people (or rather a large section of them) in israel elected the current government on the policies of putting revenge and 'security' before peace. If peace were really important then the current intifada would not have started, the army would be more careful about spilling civilian blood and open to the UN and media about its activities. Most importantly Sharon would not be using suicide bombers as an excuse to walk away from peace talks when the bombers are the exact reason that he needs to cooperate with the UN and Palestine. Something the current government there refuses to do.

      I don't think any Israeli's deserve to be bombed - its not like shrapnel discriminates between extremists of either side - it kills moderate and young of both sides, terrorism by individuals is unacceptable and illegal and there are courts and prisons for those that do it.

      What is worse - at least in my eyes - is the action of an army or state that leads to the same results as terrorism but without accountability, trials or courts. If a tank kills a child, nobody goes to prison. If a bomb kills a soldier the bomber and his family will be killed by rockets and their neighbours terrorised.

      When a state commits acts of terrorism against a people unable to defend itself then that is abhorent - a state should be able to protect itself but not be above the law and the IDF acts and believes itself to be above the law.

      The UK has lived with terrorism, it is because of at least some of the restraint of the security forces and the fact that the government engaged with terrorists while they were still active that northern island has had relative peace for several years.

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      @JAPH = qw(Hacker Perl Another Just);
      print reverse @JAPH;
      • Unfortunately there are many in the government and the army who would rather the conflict continue, [...]

        While that statement is trivially true, it undermines the fact that the vast majority on both sides want the conflict to end.

        The people (or rather a large section of them) in israel elected the current government on the policies of putting revenge and 'security' before peace.

        Um, no. Israeli politics do not work that way. No government has ever gotten a simple majority in the popular vote. G

        • Only the people on one side is in a position to end it though. The palestinians are powerless to reign in terror groups acting in their name, Palestinian security and infrastructure has been damaged to such an extent that Arafat is hardly in a position to impose a ceasefire.

          Isreal on the other hand - a) voted for this b) have some control over the forces acting in their name by voting against parties with security-not-peace policies or concientious objection.

          I know Israel has a coalition, this means

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          @JAPH = qw(Hacker Perl Another Just);
          print reverse @JAPH;
          • Only the people on one side is in a position to end it though. The palestinians are powerless to reign in terror groups acting in their name, Palestinian security and infrastructure has been damaged to such an extent that Arafat is hardly in a position to impose a ceasefire.

            Look, I think that Israeli government policy in the territories (and on many other issues, to be honest) is wrongheaded and counterproductive in many ways. But your above claim ignores reality. The Palestinian police could crack dow