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  • I'm also surprised (and disappointed) that videos are taken at nearly all of the Perl conferences I attend, but never seem to see the light of day. Like the article this post refers to, I've started to look for ways to record my presentations myself.

    My first attempt at OSCON didn't work out so well, I'll be trying again at YAPC::EU. And I do wish that anyone who is holding video footage of me from previous conferences would at least make the raw video available to me.

    In fact, I think I may write this as a

    • As the volunteer who spent many hundreds of hours (and accidentally many thousands of dollars on bandwidth fees) I take GREAT offense at your suggestion of public humiliation. Perhaps I should insist on a similar clause if I submit a patch to Rakudo?

      http://yapcna2006.equilibrious.net/2006-06-28.PatrickRMichaud/ [equilibrious.net]

      http://yapcna2006.equilibrious.net/2006-06-28.PatrickRMichaud_Part2/ [equilibrious.net]

      • Chris-

        Offense noted, none was truly intended, but please accept my apologies. My "public humiliation" was meant to be more tongue-in-cheek and humorous than it came across (my fault entirely). Beyond that, since you _did_ make some videos available, my comment should not be taken as directed at you, and I truly appreciate the care that was taken in preparing the YAPC::NA 2006 videos. I had seen them long before now, and was impressed at the care and quality of editing that went into them. A belated than

  • Being one of the organizers guilty of this sin, I can only say Sorry. :-/

    All conferences I've been involved in have had video teams, all of the teams were volunteers, and almost all of them found reasons not to finish the monumental task of editing the recorded material.

    This sucks, but as long as the conferences are super-cheap and volunteer-based, I don't see an easy way out of this. Video editing is difficult, time-consuming and tedious. It's really hard to ask people to spend their precious time on borin

    • Just to be clear, many of us aren't expecting edited footage -- we'd be more than happy just to be able to get hold of the raw footage, no matter how raw it might happen to be.

      Pm

      • Why not upload the raw footage to some alt.binaries UseNet newsgroup? I'm not exactly sure which one, but there surely must exist something like alt.binaries.conferences.video or something, right?

        Then you (the one with the raw footage) would not have to pay bandwidth costs ad infinitum and it would be easy to link to the files (create an NZB file useful for any "modern" newsreader).

        The person in the presentation could then take responsibility for publishing something edited if the ones that did the recordin

        • My raw footage for YAPC::NA 2006 was 1.2 TB. That's not feasible to upload.

          • I agree 1.2 TB is too much to handle as a mass-upload. But there can be useful middle grounds between "upload it all" and "do absolutely nothing with it." A note somewhere to the speakers that says "I/we have your video footage, if you'd like a copy of _your_ talk video, contact ...".

            There are some of us (myself included) that would gladly ship a large-capacity USB drive around via postal mail to get my hands on missing footage and the chance to redistribute some of it to others. I agree this still means

            • Along this line, I'll be at YAPC::EU next week in Pisa, and I will bring a large-capacity USB drive with me. If anyone has any video footage from previous conferences that they could also get to YAPC::EU so that I can make some copies, I'd greatly appreciate it.

              Pm

    • It seems there are many people who claim to be willing to edit if they can only get ahold of raw footage. In addition to the possibility of uploading the raw footage to some kind of distribution system, could it be possible to provide the raw footage to would-be editors via postal mail? Perhaps would-be editors could even contact those who have the raw footage with an offer to pay duplication costs and postage, if only there were a way for them to get their message to the right people.

      --
      J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
    • If you don't know how you will edit the footage, it would be better to not record it at all.

      At least then the speakers are more likely to set up something of their own.

  • I'm not a professional video editor but I am a conference speaker. I'd be more than happy to learn how to edit videos and clean up any that exist for talks I've given at YAPCs, etc. Just let me at 'em :)

    Also, there's been some talk about paying people in the Perl community to do various things. Maybe TPF could offer a grant to anyone willing to do it for the bigger conferences. It's not development but it would be good marketing. And as we've seen from various attempts at it, it doesn't seem to work well as

  • So... I have the videos for YAPC 2010, and working on them. Let me share my experience so far as the poor sap working on the videos.

    And let me preface this with, not trying to be defensive, just trying to make folks understand, and would be interested in faster approaches to getting it done.

    Challenge 1 is. I can't just release the raw video files. On each camera, there is just a list of 2gb files, chopped up randomly by the camera. Some of those talks are by people who didn't give us permission to publi
    • Some interesting options for future conferences by the sounds of it, that we can fix for next time.

      1. Have the camera operators (for which volunteering is plentiful often) verify distribution forms beforehand, and if no permission is there don't record at all.

      (Cuts down on size, waste, and complexity in post-processing)

      2. Simple person name and talk name on an A4 sheet, held up in front of camera??

      • Makes sense… catching mistakes at compile time is better. :-)

      • Given that we had one third as many camera operators as cameras, doing anything in real time wasn't an option :)