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• See you in Kopenhagen? (Score:1)

  by sir_lichtkind (5541)

  Finally? :)
  
  What have you against the say function?
  
  cheers and happy new year.
  • Re: (Score:1)

    by Alias (5735)

    Because it sacrifices meaning and intuitiveness for a relatively small huffman advantage, mainly relevant only to people writing lots of console apps that print to stdout.
    
    
    • Re: (Score:1)

      by chromatic (983)

      Illegal procedure, user number #5735, use of the word "intuitive" to describe programming languages. 15 yard penalty. Repeat the down.
      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Alias (5735)

        I see your jingoism and demand an appeal to the third umpire.
        
        Wikipedia: Intuition (knowledge) - understanding without apparent effort
        
        "Intuitive" is a perfectly proper concept to use, with the understanding that all intuitiveness is relative. A programming language is no more special than any other tool in this regards.
        
        The concept of universal intuitiveness is of course wrong when applied to programming languages.
        
        But people likely to encounter "say" come from 4 states across 2 dimensions.
        
        1. People that know
        • Re: (Score:1)

          by sir_lichtkind (5541)

          allright i see the problem that people read the word say and do not really know what it does exactly, even if i believe i don't get your point fully. i think at least it's a lot better then ruby puts :).
          
          And to be honest, to me it makes intuitively perfectly sense. because printing do machines. they do it correctly, like told without adding something. but people say things with pauses sound in the voice so you can here where is a period or end of a thought. like the bubbles in comics. and tha first thing tha
    • Re: (Score:1)

      by sigzero (5768)

      They could have just named it "println" or something but what is the fun in that?
• The Alias Tour (Score:2)

  by barbie (2653)

  ... and a series of Monger visits

  Well you're welcome to come and pay Birmingham.pm a visit. Before or after any of the conferences. We'd even be willing to be your warm up crowd for any of your presentations too :)

  All of which reminds me I need to sort out the 2008 Birmingham.pm World Tour!
  • Re: (Score:1)

    by Alias (5735)

    If a tour happens the likely plan is YAPC::NA -> mongers and hosts in the US -> OSCON -> mongers and hosts in europe -> YAPC::EU -> home.
    
    So it might be a bit late for the warm-up crowd :)
    
    But I'll surely add you to the list.
• fun (Score:1)

  by markjugg (792)

  This another enjoyable post, Adam.
  
  I hope the prediction about Perl 6 becoming somewhat usable become true.
• Red Hat (Score:1)

  by stu42j (6348)

  It looks like the devs currently responsible for Perl packages at Red Hat/Fedora are cleaning up and trying to move closer to the core. For example, they've removed some of the patches that mess with the @INC order.
  
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RobinNorwood/Perl510Spec [fedoraproject.org]