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  • Both the first two TPCs are mentioned in the Perl Timeline []. There are links to various people's photos.

    • Yes, there are links [] to be found on the web, and the perl history is a good place for them. But the [online] conference materials themselves still seem to have been lost.
      • by hfb (74) on 2002.08.10 10:27 (#11616) Homepage Journal

        This depends on your definition of 'lost'.

        O'Reilly, to the best of my knowledge, never had conference proceedings on-line for TPC1 or TPC2. At TPC1 we were all given a very splashy gold binder with 'THE POWER OF PERL' emblazoned on the spine to accompany the mousepad, tote bag, t-shirt and 20 pounds of other stuff I had to carry around. The binder was beautiful and had tabs for 'perl and the web', 'programming perl', perl for win32', 'user applications', website' and 'addendum'. In the front of the binder is a letter from Tim O'Reilly that uses the word 'freeware' frequently instead of the later coined 'open source'.

        "Our commitment to Perl now goes beyond documenting it. Which leads to an important second point. We at O'Reilly want to create a safe harbor for Perl, one protecting it from the forces of unbridled commercialism and yet giving it easy access to the open seas. Almost always when freeware is pulled within a commercial entity, barriers are built between the commercial entity and the freeware community that causes development to stagnate. The harbor becomes a lifeless lake. Not only do we recognize this as a mistake from a commercial point of view, it runs completely counter to our historical roots and belief system.

        Malcom Beattie talked about the perl compiler and Selena Sol gave a presentation on 'Building a Web Storefront". A Bioperl talk by Steve Brenner and 'Inside Regular Expressions' by Jeff Friedl. The Cathedral and the Bazaar, now infamous, was a late plenary session. TPC1 was 2 days of tutorials and 2 days of conference. It had a small USENIX feel to it with more academic papers and talks. TPC3 expanded the conference track to 3 days and the whole open source melee.

        TPC2, while held in the same location, didn't distribute a binder containing all the refereed papers. There was a tape bound collection of them distributed at TPC3 which then became glossy published books for TPC4 and TPC5. TPC6 this year, as far as I know, will not be publishing such a bound copy of the proceedings.

        People are the keepers of history, not the wayback machine.

        • This depends on your definition of 'lost'.

          As I originally mentioned, there's no reference to the older conferences anywhere on or The online artifacts are no longer.

          Looking back, I did overstate the case somewhat.

          TPC2, while held in the same location, didn't distribute a binder containing all the refereed papers.

          Right. That year, they were distributed on CD, and for a while O'Reilly had put a copy of that CD online. I've got a few copies buried somewhere in the detrius

          • Is there any reason to expect ORA to keep a 5+ year archive of the conferences? The web is mercurial at best. I make PDFs of everything from web pages I find these days since, as the timeline surely illustrates in its 600+ links, things go missing very often and never return. Such is the nature of the electronic world...pull the power plug and it's gone.

            I only vaguely remember the 2.0 CD and can't seem to locate it in my pile of stuff...maybe Gnat can find an extra lying about....but I doubt it would rema

            • Is there any reason to expect ORA to keep a 5+ year archive of the conferences?

              Expect? Maybe, maybe not. There's probably more precedent and incentive for conference organizers to focus exclusively on upcoming revenue opportunities (er, conferences) than keeping an archive of past events.

              Then again, not every conference organizer is particularly interested in fostering a community, rather than making money by attracting a attendees to upcoming events. Two organizers who are trying to build healthy

              • Do YAPC and USENIX keep online archives of all their conferences? These are both community based conferences who, to the best of my knowledge, keep little of the conference proceedings online with USENIX only listing the bibliography and YAPC having abstracts and links to the authors pages sans proceedings. It takes time and someone to manage all that data to keep it online in a coherent presentation. Maybe you could volunteer to be the ORA and YAPC proceedings archivist.