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  • Well, you've got some choices to make. You can embrace the change or you can fight it.

    Perl 6 is Perl 5, but more so. I'm not talking about the internals. I'm not talking about the syntax. It's the feeling of the language that's important, and the feeling of the community. As long the languages understand each other and work to develop common ground, everything should be fine.

    Perl 6 isn't a magic bullet, but what it is no more and no less another generation of Perl, community and all. Like the prodigal son, it's no good trying to force it into what we want it to be, trying to control its density. You just have to have confidence that it'll turn out for the best if we give it the best upbringing that we can.

    At some point Perl 6 and it's own community might strain against the original Perl 5 community. But, assuming we're good parents, we'll get over that. You gotta have faith.

    Yes, yes, I'm in a silly mood this afternoon. Something said "All tests passed." and I got all giddy.

    • Please, don't attempt to convince me that "Perl 6 is Perl 5, but more so." I am not buying it from Larry or Damian, and I am not buying it from you. :-)

      The point here is that I will continue to use Perl 5, that there are substantial numbers of people that will do likewise, that if Perl 6 becomes what Larry and Damian want it to be, that there will be significant fracture of the community, and that we should think about that. If we don't, then the fractures will be very bad for everyone.

      I am not talking
      • Now you can't seriously expect me to obey you and not try and convince you about something in a public forum can you ;-) Let me change the argument and try a different stance. Perl 6 is Perl (...er but more so...) in one respect, and one respect only...it, like the other language that you love so much, is crafted and has been been delivered into being by the Perl community.

        Okay, let me reiterate this point, being a little less glib about the whole thing.

        What makes Perl Perl? Wasn't that the origin

    • Perl 6 is Perl 5, but more so. I'm not talking about the internals. I'm not talking about the syntax. It's the feeling of the language that's important, and the feeling of the community.

      Let's see:

      sub foo {
          return 0 is true;
      }

      I don't think that got the same feeling as Perl5. There are going to be lots of new idioms in Perl6 that don't have a reason to exist in Perl5. At the same time, these idioms are being added so that the magical behaviors we have come to expect from Perl will continu

      • sub foo {
            return 0 is true;
        }

        Gah, that's nothing more than what all the punk kids are using to write:

        sub foo {
            return dualvar(0,"true");
        }
        these days. In my day we had to rub two scalars together to get
        sub foo {
            return "0E0";
        }
        and we thought ourselves lucky to have that
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