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  • I am not sure I am on your wavelength. What is "pitiful" about people in Ohio voting overwhelmingly for Bush? With all the *doom* that was supposed to happen and the relative smoothness of the whole process this time I don't see a bitching point. Except maybe you wanted Kerry to win.
    • TorgoX's point is straightforward. He doesn't trust the election result because he doesn't trust the election machines from Diebold that were used in the election. So he doesn't think that it is clear that Bush really won.

      Which is a fair point. The count in Ohio was fairly narrowly for Bush. The election machines are not trustworthy. Given the margins, it would not have taken a large fix to have stolen the election. Initial exit polls disagreed with the count. The head of Diebold publically promised
      • I hope that in coming years the people who voted for Bush come to realize the magnitude of how badly he has screwed up

        Then we can "begin the healing", and then get bored with that and quickly move on to some other maniacal Nixon VIIIth. [] And IXth. And so on, with American politics swinging forever between the only two modes it knows: heavily armed backlash, and damage control.

        Good Cop Bad Cop is apparently the name of the game in this country -- and it's a jolly game, full of twists and turns and cloak and dagger! But as games go, it's getting pretty old. []

        I think the cash will run out eventually, and Americans will have to scale back their bipolarity's reach, if not fervor. The Folk of the US will then go back to torturing and grifting and lynching merely eachother, as befits its role as a northern appendage to Latin America.

        Meanwhile, in a pleasant SimEarth, I will construct a country where there is healthy democracy: transparency and accountability in government; a sane electoral systems []; a well-educated, cosmopolitan, multilingual, and thoughtful populace with well-justified faith in the elections; thoughtful conversational debate during the periods of candidacy, instead of the current sanctimonious cosplay; oversight by a press governed by higher goals than looking like sexually available TV presenters []; an economy on a sounder basis than waste and not-yet-illegal accounting; and there will be pie for all. Such pie!


        • Have you ever read Wealth and Democracy []? Based on the timing of the collapse of other world powers, Kevin Phillips projects our economic collapse at around 2015 or so.

          The various negative commentators on Amazon notwithstanding (I wonder how many of them actually read the book), Kevin Phillips clearly did a lot of research. He has a long track record of spotting political trends well before others do. (Both Nixon and Clinton credited him with the election strategy that brought them the presidency!)

          Who w
          • There are many depressing things about the idea of India and China having any reach beyond their own borders. And they have no pie.