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  • TeeJay: did you read this article by Philip Greenspun [greenspun.com], which I mentioned on scribot mainly for your benefit? It is long, but it brings out some interesting points. If you really lack the energy to read through it, I can bullet point my choice of them for you.

    Perhaps it'll shake you out of your dogmatic world view. However, I think the previous evidence is really against that.
    • Reading through the article I find an even more dogmatic world view. Although there are a lot of interesting facts unearthed and more than enough evidence to tarnish the reputation of many Arab Nations (rather than their people), there is incredible speculation and lack of understanding of very important issues.

      Assuming that arabs and muslims worldwide hate jews as much as nazi germany is hardly plausable, and the comments on the piece posted by Irish readers show large holes or conflicts in his logic. In

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      • "Assuming that arabs and muslims worldwide hate jews as much as nazi germany is hardly plausable" Why isn't it plausible? I don't think all Muslims want me dead; but I think that there are N Muslims who do believe that I should be killed, where N is a number that is larger than I would like it to be. In fact, I think it's fair to say that that there are British citizens who would like have a chance to kill me and my family. Tell me that the following account of Saudi and Yemeni sports teams forfeiting t
        • it isn't plausable because that would be a larger proportion than any UK party votes, or for any party in europe.

          Islam itself is a peaceful religion (although like the bible you can effectively bend the words to suit any agenda).

          It is less plausable than saying that 30% of jews hate muslims or arabs because polls show that a significant minority , enough to vote in a coalition of right-wing parties to the Israeli government, voted for arab/palestine policies.

          I think its reasonable to boycott both the goods and sports of a pariah nation - just as the world did with South Africa and the UK has again with Zimbabwe.

          Its any sportsmans decision as to who he competes with, sporting boycotts gain publicity to important issues. Zimbabwean Cricketers played with black armbands mourning the death of democracy in their country, and the ANC supported boycotts of south africa.

          Comparing people to Nazis because they don't wish to play sports with a nation is unreasonable. This doesn't mean that UK cricketers hate Zimbabwean or Black cricketers, or that Arab Sportsmen hate jews.

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          • "it isn't plausable because that would be a larger proportion than any UK party votes, or for any party in europe." I can't figure out what "it" refers to in this sentence.
          • No question that Islam can be a peaceful religion.

            It was not, however, a peaceful religion at its founding. It was a warrior religion.

            And it is not, in some very well funded interpretations, a peaceful religion today -- as I am reminded each time I look at the Manhattan skyline.

            The question you have to ask yourself is why do British citizens walk out from their mosque feeling compelled to die in the process of killing as many Jews as possible. Don't tell me because of the injustice, because there are

            • 2 british muslims out of over a million (guessing) have chosen to blow themselves up in Israel - they could have targetted jews just as easily elsewhere but did not. So you cannot conclude that a british muslim is going to kill you in america for being a jew. For being american possibly but only 2 al-quaida bombers were british out of $very_big_num muslims in the UK.

              If you can't distinguish between the 99.9% of muslims worldwide who don't wish to kill any jews, and the small minority that do - then it is

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              • If you can't distinguish between the 99.9% of muslims worldwide who don't wish to kill any jews, and the small minority that do - then it is a slippery slope to their level.

                Everything I know about Islam (and I've done a fair amount of reading on the subject for many years, although I would never call myself an expert) tells me that it is indeed a peaceful religion. But I have yet to read more than a handful of reports from Arab countries indicating that there is serious opposition to suicide bombers, o

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