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  • The issue I run into day-to-day is building in hooks for future needs. You don't want to build code that can't be easily modified, but nor do you need a plug-in framework based on future conjecture.
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    • There's also an open source myth in there somewhere. (I should be writing that article, not eating a candy bar and reading use Perl;.)

      There was a discussion on Perl Monks today about access checking. The poster just needed to check if a given user name is in the list of admins. That's pretty simple: just a hash look up.

      While I normally use exists to avoid autovivification issues, one poster claimed that that was bad design. "What if you add administrative levels in the future and one of those levels

        • There's also an open source myth in there somewhere. (I should be writing that article, not eating a candy bar and reading use Perl;.)

        I wish you would just write the article, rather than continuing to cast aspersions in the direction of open source. It's hard to address a lot of vague notions.

        Whatever you write, I doubt that there's any problem in open source that I can't find in closed source, as well. Prima Donna developers? I've seen many working on Closed Source projects. Bad code? Believe me, s

        • You're barking up the wrong tree [oreillynet.com]. He's not putting down open source developement, but (like many of us in the open source community) he is interested in how we can improve.
          • I know who Chromatic is and I recognize his Open Source credentials.

            I guess I overreacted to the teaser [perl.org], where he said:

            I've decided to write a new article entitled Lies Open Source Developers Tell Ourselves. Here's a brief list of untruthy topics: feature freezes, competing projects, popularity, packaging, documentation, frameworks, rewrites, and code quality.

            Which seems to paint Open Source Developers, as a group, as being delusional with regard to a number of important issues.

            While there may be some p

            • Which seems to paint Open Source Developers, as a group, as being delusional with regard to a number of important issues.

              You misunderstood. The point of the article is to encourage improvements in these areas, not to disparage open source development or compare it unfavorably to closed source development.

              Programmers tell a lot of lies. Fred Brooks told us before I was born (and maybe you, too) that that's because we're eternal optimists. :)

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                • The point of the article is to encourage improvements in these areas, not to disparage open source development or compare it unfavorably to closed source development.

                I agree that developers tell a lot of lies, to themselves and others, but an article titled "Lies Open Source Developers Tell Themselves" certainly seems to imply that this is a problem among Open Source Developers as distinct from any other type.

                Certainly an article titled "Lies Americans Tell Themselves" would be taken to apply to lies Americans tell themselves that others do not.

                As I said, maybe I'm being too touchy.

                • Certainly an article titled "Lies Americans Tell Themselves" would be taken to apply to lies Americans tell themselves that others do not.

                  Ooh, ooh, ooh! I wanna write that article. Can I, can I, huh? Puleeeeze? :)

                  • As an American you're disqualified from writing such an article.

                    If you can't be truthful with yourself, how can we expect you to be truthful about the Lies Americans Tell Themsleves?

                    Hmmm, maybe you are actually ideally qualified. Perhaps it's the case that Americans not only tell themselves lies, but like to read lies about the lies they tell themselves.

                    Didn't Al Franken just write that in book form, though?

                    • Perhaps it's the case that Americans not only tell themselves lies, but like to read lies about the lies they tell themselves.

                      That's just the thing. As an open source developer, I tell myself lies, and I like to read about them so I can start telling myself the truth.

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