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I must be missing something (Score:1)
You don't like Perl 6.
You did not involve yourself in that project.
You don't like what others have done.
You have some weird ideas on how community projects work: you think that there's a cabal that controls the project. Well, you may call it a cabal, but anyone can join. You just have to write some idea in the mailing lists, or talk on the IRC channels, or submit a patch to the code or the documentation.
If you have an interest in the outcome of the project, you don't ignore it for 12 years and t
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Shane may be entitled to rejecting my comments, but he is definitely not entitled to editing them. It may be his blog, but it's my content - and my ideas. Misrepresenting my ideas on purpose is a violent act.
I can tell you are confused. You are asking all the wrong questions. The real question is: why did we let this bunch of crazy people drive perl directly to the garbage? You don't care that it's become a joke? Interesting.
You, as member of the perl community, are also responsible for it. Take some resp
Coherent conversations (Score:1)
In your original blog post, you said that chromatic had not approved your posts.
In your comment above, you say he edited them.
You also said you wanted a coherent conversation. It sounds like, right now, you're really upset and are having problems putting one together.
If you have a beef with him, why not put together a clear, well-written post with what he did, with links to the topics.
If, on the other hand, you're just mad and want to get even for him not approving your posts, I think you should chill. No one in the community, whether they support Perl 6, Perl 5, Perl 4 or whatever, will respect your views when they're presented like this.
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Shane has actually done both - rejecting and editing. Interesting how you didn't reply to any of my other comments.
As for chilling - you only want me to "chill" (I am in no way upset about this issue) because what I'm saying is somehow insulting to you -- and this is the case only because you still believe the perl mythos - speed is not important, Conway is a great programmer, Wall is smart and a linguist thus perl is awesome, Perl looks like English, Perl 6 "will be done when it's done", Perl is awesome a
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I believe there also seems to be a larger issue: Perl developers in general are not used to discussion. We are not used to having someone question our community leaders; we are not used to discussion - we are used to incoherent "state of the onion" addresses and absolutely no accountability.
So, I understand that my comments might come as a shock, but believe me, these guys have been making a mess with what used to be a vibrant community - because we didn't follow them more closely. And every time things se