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  • I agree, the US should get out. We need to stop selling arms to Israel, stop giving them massive foreign aid, stop being the only in the UN security council blocking motions to censure them, and so on.

    This would indeed massively help efforts to bring peace to this situation, as it would force Israel to stop using military force to "solve" it's problems.
    • ... it would force Israel to stop using military force to "solve" it's problems.
      No, it would force Israel to stop defending herself.
      • Slaughtering Palestinians is a really poor defense strategy. I, as much as anyone, would like to see fewer Israeli citizens being blown to bits.

        But the best way to do that is to provide a real Palestinian state, where young men have something to do besides sitting around unemployed all day feeling frustrated. You know, jobs, that sort of thing.

        But the US makes sure that Israel can continue to use a violent military "solution", even though it solves nothing. Killing someone's friends and neighbors is no
        • Slaughtering Palestinians is a really poor defense strategy.

          That is one of a host of possible descriptions for what is going on today.

          But the best way to do that is to provide a real Palestinian state, where young men have something to do besides sitting around unemployed all day feeling frustrated.

          I don't see how withholding foreign aid or military equipment is a necessary pre-requisite to that plan. I also think the situation is significantly more complex than your simplification makes it soun

          • Well, I don't trust any of those people you listed, particularly the ones currently in power. Neither Arafat nor Sharon are trustworthy, nor do they have the best interests of their people at heart. It just so happens that Sharon has a lot of US money and weapons to play with so he gets to indulge his taste for violence and destruction to his heart's content.

            In fact, I think that the majority of the Palestinian and Israeli people _would_ accept a simple solution, if only the powers that be would let them
            • I think it's rather naive of you to believe that the people you listed actually give a damn about the Palestinians or the Israelis, given their actions in power, but I guess once you've absorbed enough American news media you're ready to believe anything.

              Actually, my POV wasn't tempered by CNN, but by living in Israel. Mighty presumptive of you to think otherwise....

              If you go back and read what I said, it just a simple statement that the region is filled with complex interests which defy a simple so

  • 'nuff said.
    • Not sure I understand - sure, there's oil in the middle east, but not in Israel (or Palestine). Is it because if we keep Israel happy and in our pocket, it's a neighbor to the oil-producing countries?

      Jason

  • I wish people would realize that the situation in Philistia totally justifies my "crazy" terraforming ideas, where I fill in the eastern Mediterranean, so there'll be land enough for every aggro-narcissistic ethnic/religious clique (claque?) on Earth.

    Sure, there is the slight risk that my plans will go awry and it'll end up blowing a mile-wide hole in the Earth's crust, spraying enough gack into the atmosphere to put us into another ice age. But if you wanna make an omlette, you gotta break some eggs. Am

    • I think that part of the world can live with a mile-wide scar in the crust. That will just mean that the Grand Canyon won't be the only surface feature on the planet with that property.

      The really crucial thing you can't do here is make a hole that's deeper than the Dead Sea. Imagine all of the tourist revenue the Israelis, Jordanians and Palestinians will lose if that becomes the second lowest point on land on the planet!