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  • how people in the UK can welcome the retinal scan for payment of school lunches yet bristle about a lowly ID card. I'll be getting a national ID when I enter Finland and it doesn't bother me since the US has been tracking people for so long in all but the reality of an ID card that it seems late and extraneous at this point. I'm sure the UK isn't much different in this respect. Why all the fuss over something that is really just a foregone conclusion?

    • I don't have a problem with carrying an ID card if I actually thought it would do any good. My problem is that it appears that such a card will not deliver the stated benefits. Fraud will not be reduced, crime may well increase as the cards become valuable things to forge/acquire. So over a billion pounds will be spent for little real benefit. It just doesn't seem like a good deal to me.
      • I presume you carry a drivers license or a passport....how is this ID any different or more objectionable? Any ID is subject to fraudulent reproduction so the fear of identity theft seems dated and moot. The expense seems a bit high but there are worse things a government could spend money on.

        • I presume you carry a drivers license or a passport....

          I only carry my passport when I'm out of the UK. And in the UK you don't need to carry your driving license with you at all times. Even if you had one - which I don't.

          • Do you carry some form of ID though? How would medics identify your body or next of kin if you were in some sort of public transport accident or somesuch? At least in the US, if they can't identify you or find someone who can, you sit in the ER as a 'john doe' awaiting identification unless your injuries are critical. I often have my passport with me as it's one of the most definitive forms of ID you can carry and the picture is way better than my drivers license :)

            The ID card is no big whoop but what abo

            • At least in the US, if they can't identify you or find someone who can, you sit in the ER as a 'john doe' awaiting identification unless your injuries are critical.

              The NHS is far more fair than that. Everyone gets to sit in the ER, identified or not :-)

              (There's probably a signficant observation in the above. I occasionally go out with no real identification (just keys and a hankerchief). But it has never even crossed my mind that I'd fail to get medical treatment if I could not be identified. I guess it's a side effect of living in a country with a universal public health system)