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  • Israel (Score:3, Insightful)

    Israel is the only country in the world that is able to commit so many atrocities without anybody stopping them.

    Israel is the only country in the world that is not at peace with its neighbors in the region. It is also the only country in the world where its neighbors have tried to annihilate them no less than 4 times in 50 years. It is also the only country in the world where a militant, determined, suicidal terrorist group is adamantly trying to deny its right to exist and actively attempts to kill

    • Why should I consider any country in comparison to Israel, just because of countries commit atrocities it does not make it OK for israel to do the same.

      There is a long list of countries that commit atrocities against their own and other people : Burma, Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe, Iraq, The Balkans, Russia, China, North Korea.

      Israel is just another of these countries, and I have singled it out because the technical and international communities seem determined to pretend it isn't happening.

      Where did I say

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      • by ziggy (25) on 2003.03.20 14:41 (#18130) Journal
        Why should I consider any country in comparison to Israel, just because of countries commit atrocities it does not make it OK for israel to do the same.

        There is a long list of countries that commit atrocities against their own and other people : Burma, Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe, Iraq, The Balkans, Russia, China, North Korea.

        Israel is just another of these countries, and I have singled it out because the technical and international communities seem determined to pretend it isn't happening.

        If you really believed that human rights violations were objectionable wherever they occurred, you would not be singling out one example above and beyond all others. Because you constantly critique Israeli actions (to the extent where you call for the US/UN to Bomb Israel, not Iraq [perl.org]), yet have virtually nothing to say about any actions going on in elsewhere, your silence is tantamount to acceptance of human rights violations everywhere except Israel.

        I don't buy your disingenuous defense. If you really believe that atrocities were unacceptable wherever they may occur, you would have more to say about what's going on in Tibet, Kashmir and elsewhere. As it stands, your protests are nothing more than some skewed form of politically-correct anti-Israeli hot air.

        • I really believe these atrocities are unacceptable anywhere.

          I frequently mention Isreal because it is one of the worst regimes and is under-reported and has so many people trying to excuse it.

          Palestine is now one of the worlds most poverty-stricken areas and isreal actively prevents the UN and Aid agencies doing their jobs.

          Even burma doesn't do that to its people. I haven't mentioned Burma or tibet for a long time because both are moving forward, slowly but still faster than israel.

          I also mention is

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          • I really believe these atrocities are unacceptable anywhere.

            Your incessant chest-beating about Israel, to the exclusion of all other incidents, does not support this statement.

            I also mention isreal because I keep on seeing Jewish, American and Isreali commentators defending it - a very real case of 'the lady doth protest too much'.

            The only case of the lady doth protest too much I see here is your anti-Israel stance cloaked in the garb of general moral outrage. If you were genuinely concerned ab

            • Isreal is one of the worst offendors and unlike many other places where human rights are curtailed it has an elected government - this means people voted for this kind of ghettoisation and deliberate actions against palestine.

              Unlike China, Burma and Iraq where regimes are imposed (often with Western complicity and support) - Isreal chose to follow this course and it is the will of the people making it more like Kosovo and Serbia where Milosovic was elected. Just as Milosovic and Serbia were a problem, so

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              • > This is just not right, and I suppose you know this. In fact, the level of oppression of minorities in Israel is very low, probibly lower than nations such as France, or even America. It certainly comes nothing close, despite being under a 50 year war against it based exclussively on racism in the surrounding Muslim culture, to the systematic rapes of women in Iraq, the massive murder of Jews in Iran, the Cultural Revolution of China which caused nearly 15 percent of the native Chinese population to
              • Isreal is one of the worst offendors and unlike many other places where human rights are curtailed it has an elected government - this means people voted for this kind of ghettoisation and deliberate actions against palestine.>>

                This is just not right, and I suppose you know this. In fact, the level of oppression of minorities in Israel is very low, probibly lower than nations such as France, or even America.

                It certainly comes nothing close, despite being under a 50 year war against it based exclu