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All the Perl that's Practical to Extract and Report

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  • The presence of Delphi in the top ten should be enough to discount TIOBE's list completely. Delphi. More popular than JavaScript.

    Perhaps there's some hidden Internet where Web 2.0 rounded corners are only possible through ADAX, and TIOBE's accidentally let on that such a beast exists.

    Delphi, also known as Pascal with object extensions, from the days when Anders Hejlsberg was still at Borland -- a decade ago.

    • There really is no point even talkling about TI**E, the guy behind it is known to be partisan towards python, makes no secret of the fact he hates perl.

      As chromatic pointed out, the fact he's included delphi shows how totally broken T***E is.

      http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?usage_statistics [perlfoundation.org]

      Shows plenty of metrics indicating that Perl community, usage, deployment and development is growing.

      In fact all evidence shows it's being used more and for bigger projects.

      --

      @JAPH = qw(Hacker Perl Another Just);
      print reverse @JAPH;
      • I went to that page and followed to the Perl job metrics - and in fact they were indicating that the number of Perl jobs is falling down.
        • Well Duh!

          Seasonal fluctuations and the economy in London.

          **Nearly ALL jobs are down**

          That includes python, and especially ruby.

          --

          @JAPH = qw(Hacker Perl Another Just);
          print reverse @JAPH;
          • To illustrate TeeJay's point, I've created a table [rozallin.co.uk] showing the top ten TIOBE languages, the average hourly/annual rate of pay and their demand in the UK jobs market over the past year. IT jobs as a whole are down 47%, and at a glance every language is being impacted severely by the recession.
        • Oh look.. it's T****s Language of the Year 2007/2008 , what's it doing... ?

          http://www.jobstats.co.uk/jobstats.d/Details.d/Trends.d/SKILL/PYTHON.d/stats.200 81202.1428.png [jobstats.co.uk]

          It's dropped by 50% since it's peak way back in 2006 and by more than 30% since it's 2007 peak!

          TIOBE is definately on the money there then.. LOL

          --

          @JAPH = qw(Hacker Perl Another Just);
          print reverse @JAPH;
    • Let me say it more bluntly.

      If you think TIOBE should not be completely dismissed because of its major flaws in both methodology and results, you're part of the problem.

      TIOBE falls prey to the First Citiwide Change Bank fallacy: that just by getting a LOT of bad data, you can overcome the problems inherent in your methodology. "One word: volume."

      But a lot of crap is still crap.