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  • ...would be to get a professional designer to create a real logo and a site template, imo this is long overdue.
    And by professional designer i mean someone prominent, like Jon Hicks.
    • The logo we already have. The onion can be used really well and in different ways.

      It's the site template, done in a way that we people making up new perl.org/cpan.org websites can easily integrate, that we badly need.

      • A proposed redesign for use.perl.org, created by Andy Wardley the last time this discussion happened:
        http://wardley.org/use.perl.org/test.html [wardley.org]

        A few different people tried to contact pudge with no response, so plans/hopes to improve the looks of use.perl were abandoned.

        Trying to do something useful with the wave of enthusiasm for Perl websitey things, at Digital Craftsmen we built this:
        http://perlisalive.com/ [perlisalive.com]

        Which obviously uses a modified version of Andy's design. Meanwhile, Andy was working on a re

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        Perl is Alive
        http://perlisalive.com [perlisalive.com]
        • Most of Andy's changes were meaningless cosmetic changes, and I simply don't care about that, and don't have the time to give to shepherding through things that to me are unimportant. I have too many actually important things to ignore! I know a lot of you care deeply about how shiny a web page is. I am not one of these people. I don't apologize for it, and I find it odd that your perception of the site would be so drastically impacted by that.

          As to the lack of news that Alias mentioned, I've many times offered to allow people to post news, and sometimes I get a response, and usually I don't. If anyone else would like to post news, let me know.

          As to Alias' other complaints, I see no value whatsoever in trackbacks, and I maintain the syndicating content TO aggregation services is wrongheaded.

          I also don't care about images in journals myself, but we have support for that now and am willing to allow it; this can be discussed (though perhaps in a different context than this). Might take a wee bit of work, because actually, use.perl.org is not much of a testbed for Slashdot anymore, as we now have other internal systems for testing, and use.perl.org's code has not been updated for a few months now.

          • Oh and BTW, I think Andy's changes mostly look good, I am not attacking him or them; I am just saying it's something I don't have the time to care about.

            • If someone had the time and inclination to apply some of those visual changes here, would you be willing to give access to do so? (I realize that your "I don't care about those things" means that you aren't likely to work on them. I'd just like to know if that means you're opposed to them.)

              • Perhaps. As noted, right now the code on this site is a bit behind. I am planning on updating it soon, within the next few weeks. I would be open to pure CSS+images changes. Unlikely I'll be too interested in code/HTML changes, as those tend to take up a lot of time, but you never know.

          • "I simply don't care... I also don't care"

            Thanks for getting so efficiently to the root of the problem.

            • You appear to be trying to criticize me, but I don't think you actually are.

              • You think wrongly.

                Allow me to rephrase it in a way that you can understand: you have your head so far up your own ass you could kiss your own tonsils. Hope this helps.

                • Nope, you've confirmed I was right all along. You were not, in fact, criticizing me. You were trying to, but you did not. You think it is a criticism of me that I don't care about such things. It's not. You think that the fact that I don't care about such things means I "have my head up my ass." You are wrong.

                  I could, of course, say the exact same thing to you, from my perspective: anyone who thinks a "shiny" web page makes a lick of difference, and actually cares about such things, has his head up hi