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All the Perl that's Practical to Extract and Report

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    • I think that it is important to be able to talk practically about topics, even when they are supposedly "taboo".

      Let me give a simple example.

      When a woman has menstrual cramps, they can be helped enormously by knowing about a basic pressure point. Create a "fat pinch" between your thumb and forefinger between the Achilles tendon and the ankle. Hold. Do both ankles at once if you can.

      Not many people know this. The ones that do know it are unlikely to tell it to people because it never naturally comes u
      • Ben, this is a crowd where the simple utterance of BOOBIES can cause a hush to descend on the conversation. Talking about fat preggers women needing a canula to pee in a tiny stall made for women a lot less encumbered is WAY over their heads. :) And cramps? LOL...I can smell the blue smoke escaping even from this distance :)
        • I'm just stating that I don't like it. And I don't like it because the skittishness and nervousness has real human costs.

          For instance if you can't talk about teats, how are you ever going to talk about things like issues involving breastfeeding? Like providing places to do it.

          On a different topic, a book that I think you might like is The Price of Motherhood [amazon.com]. It is about how much motherhood costs women, and all of the subtle ways that society (particularly in the USA) increases that cost.
          • I don't recall you being such a crusader for change in this regard. What people say and what people do are usually 180 degrees different from each other, e.g. people who say they want more women around perl yet discuss the hot booth babes or ask women who their boyfriend is at conferences when they're attending on their own. Hey, the canula thing even squicks me since, well, I know they exist but I'm not terribly eager to discuss them. Aim lower and lower your expectations, I have.

            I don't talk about tea

            • I can recognize lost causes when I see them. But sometimes I get annoyed and let people know how I feel anyways.

              Incidentally the flip side of your say and do comment is that sometimes someone who you wouldn't necessarily expect to "get it", does. I'd like to believe that I'm an example. (Which I am..for some appropriately limited definition of "get it".)
              • Well, just don't become the parentus of borg, you know the ones, the ones who start pushing the economics of being parents and not being able to have it all, rabidly harassing the local stores for mommy parking and discussing the colour of baby poop in mixed company. Women are paid, on average, 30% or so less than their male counterparts even without the kids and there are a lot of ways you can commit career suicide. At least if you have kids, you've got family. You can't always have it all.

                'Getting it' isn't enough, you must being willing to enforce opinions in a peer group or in the workplace. I hate cowardly guys who send me email saying 'I totally agree' while they let me go to the dogs alone. I'm going to put good money down that you're going to have a girl since it seems that perl guys are running at a 90% probability of spawning females. I think of it as a sign, an omen. :) Well, aside from the idea that maybe laptops with wireless kill off all the Y sperm....

                • Whether I'll take that advice depends on what you mean by parentus of borg.

                  First of all I'd like to see where the 30% figure comes from. Studies that I've seen suggest that if a woman goes into the same career as a men and does not have children, the woman makes close to what he does - for instance in one comparison of lawyers she'll make 98 cents to his dollar.

                  Of course things seldom are that equal, women do not always pick the same careers, and women often have kids. And in total it works out that wom