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  • I'm also surprised (and disappointed) that videos are taken at nearly all of the Perl conferences I attend, but never seem to see the light of day. Like the article this post refers to, I've started to look for ways to record my presentations myself.

    My first attempt at OSCON didn't work out so well, I'll be trying again at YAPC::EU. And I do wish that anyone who is holding video footage of me from previous conferences would at least make the raw video available to me.

    In fact, I think I may write this as a

    • As the volunteer who spent many hundreds of hours (and accidentally many thousands of dollars on bandwidth fees) I take GREAT offense at your suggestion of public humiliation. Perhaps I should insist on a similar clause if I submit a patch to Rakudo?

      http://yapcna2006.equilibrious.net/2006-06-28.PatrickRMichaud/ [equilibrious.net]

      http://yapcna2006.equilibrious.net/2006-06-28.PatrickRMichaud_Part2/ [equilibrious.net]

      • Chris-

        Offense noted, none was truly intended, but please accept my apologies. My "public humiliation" was meant to be more tongue-in-cheek and humorous than it came across (my fault entirely). Beyond that, since you _did_ make some videos available, my comment should not be taken as directed at you, and I truly appreciate the care that was taken in preparing the YAPC::NA 2006 videos. I had seen them long before now, and was impressed at the care and quality of editing that went into them. A belated thank-you for your work (I did not know until now who was responsible for them).

        It's all of the other videos that I regret not being able to see or (more importantly to me) share with my wife who is unable to attend the conferences). Since YAPC::NA 2006 I've given quite a lot of video-recorded talks at YAPC events, and except for one instance in Columbus where I cornered the videographer on the same day of the talk, I have absolutely no video to show from them.

        I agree that putting together a conference is a ton of work, and generally underappreciated. I mainly wish that the people holding the raw video footage could/would distribute the load to others of us who are willing to take on some of the time/expense to have them available. I'm not asking them to pay to host/edit the videos, I would just like to somehow get better access to parts of the video vault.

        As for ridicule about Rakudo's patch process, I'm not certain the analogy is entirely a fair one. The patches _are_ publicly available, so others can still make use of them even if they're not immediately incorporated into the official repository right away. (Exchanging patches is a time-honored tradition in free software.) Moreover, we _are_ constantly processing and applying many of the patches we receive, so it's clear that patches are being processed, even if a particular patch may be warnocked for an extended period of time. Also, afaik I think that queries about specific patch submissions usually receive a very quick response of some sort explaining the delay.

        It may also be worth noting Perl 6, and by extension the Perl 6 developers, certainly receive a ton of very public ridicule and criticism already. :-) This doesn't justify ridiculing others, but I am extremely familiar with the pain of being on the receiving end.

        Anyway, as I said, no offense was intended but obviously some was transmitted, and I apologize that my comment minimized your efforts or the efforts of others who put together these conferences. The lack of video is just a bit of a sore point around my house at the moment, and this was an opportunity to express my frustration, however badly I may have done so.

        Pm