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All the Perl that's Practical to Extract and Report

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  • Given that he has no wikipedia entry, who is he, and why should I be excited that he has a blog?
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    • Randal L. Schwartz
    • Stonehenge
    • *boggle*

      I don’t have a Wikipedia entry either. Why are you reading my journal?

      • You don't hate Perl.
      • You post to use.perl. I read everyone at use.perl.

        An announcement is more effective if you give a bit of context. Otherwise, you're just preaching to the choir. Don't presume everyone who reads your announcement knows everything you do... otherwise, why would you be making the announcement?

        It's like the slashdot posts that say "New version of Hipster now available! This is exciting!" And I go, "what the hell is Hipster?". Bad announce. Sigh.

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        • Randal L. Schwartz
        • Stonehenge
        • Conceded. Your response wasn’t the best way to communicate that, though; it would have come across as much more neutral without the Wikipedia clause.

          • Wikipedia is surprisingly complete as of late. Almost everything that I've gone to wikipedia for, I've seen something interesting, and yes, it's been surprising, but it's also started setting the bar for "worth knowing".
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            • Randal L. Schwartz
            • Stonehenge
        • It's like the slashdot posts that say "New version of Hipster now available! This is exciting!" And I go, "what the hell is Hipster?". Bad announce. Sigh.

          I did that about AJAX for about three months. I hate it when a new term springs up and people use it like anyone who doesn't know it is just not in the "in-crowd." It's so high-school.

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          J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
    • He's a guy who worked at Amazon (he moved on to a startup), tries to learn stuff, and got in the habit of expressing his opinions over wine. A lot of people like his opinions, or at least find them worth reading.

      The list of people who think they are interesting includes me, Aristotle, and Dominus.

      For the record, I find myself in agreement with his basic complaints about Perl (if not about Larry Wall). If I cared more about programming language aesthetics, I'd have left Perl long ago because of this. But
      • Thanks for giving Randal the good answer I couldn’t come up with since getting over my initial reaction.

      • PS.:

        • Unless I missed something, he now works at Google, not for a startup.

        • The reason I just disregard anything he thinks about Perl is that he poisons the well by characterising those who like list flattening as Perl zombies. That crosses the line from reasonable criticism to pure partisanship, which I couldn’t care less about.

          His ad hominem attacks against Larry just seal the matter.

      • PPS. (getting long, I know):

        For whomever these names are known figures, the list of people who find his writings interesting further includes Ryan Tomayko, Bill de hÓra, Tim Bray and Sam Ruby.