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  • The Ottoman's invaded Europe. Turkey has mixed it up with Greece lots of times. The Anatolian peninsula sure counted as "Europe" when I was took Western Civ. Heck, Turkey has even been persecuting ethnic minorities (the Kurds) just like the greatest of the EU's members. Turkey is as European as any of the other memebers. It's a modern, western-leaning country who's bad treatment at the EU's hands will only lead to heartache in the future. Also, there are a number of excellent Turkish cyclists.

    Hail, Ataturk

    • They will be in, I'm sure. It just takes time convincing the people that would like Europe to be some sort of christian empire. But they won't hold long.

      Interestingly enough, there was a project for some form of EU between the two WW and the definition of the potential membership was "any country at least part on the european continent that is also a member of the SdN [the former UNO]" and people objected in all newspapers of the time that that would leave Turkey out.

      Turkey also has some of t


      -- Robin Berjon []