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  • I am not sure I am on your wavelength. What is "pitiful" about people in Ohio voting overwhelmingly for Bush? With all the *doom* that was supposed to happen and the relative smoothness of the whole process this time I don't see a bitching point. Except maybe you wanted Kerry to win.
    • TorgoX's point is straightforward. He doesn't trust the election result because he doesn't trust the election machines from Diebold that were used in the election. So he doesn't think that it is clear that Bush really won.

      Which is a fair point. The count in Ohio was fairly narrowly for Bush. The election machines are not trustworthy. Given the margins, it would not have taken a large fix to have stolen the election. Initial exit polls disagreed with the count. The head of Diebold publically promised
      • I hope that in coming years the people who voted for Bush come to realize the magnitude of how badly he has screwed up

        Then we can "begin the healing", and then get bored with that and quickly move on to some other maniacal Nixon VIIIth. [] And IXth. And so on, with American politics swinging forever between the only two modes it knows: heavily armed backlash, and damage control.

        Good Cop Bad Cop is apparently the name of the game in this country -- and it's a jolly game, full of twists and turns and cloak a