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• Why people really work (Score:2)

  by brian_d_foy (44)

  That's the crap that HBS teaches? No wonder employees are unmotivated. All they can think about for employee motivation is the work environment. They beg the question that people want to work at all.
  
  Some people might go to work because there are interesting people or a nice work environment, but even with the best people and best environment, most people wouldn't go to work if you didn't pay them. Most people don't have jobs because they want to work. They have them because:

  • People want to pay their bills
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  • Re:Why people really work (Score:1)

    by bluto (225) on 2006.04.17 11:34 (#47213)

    100% correct -- "H" stands for Harvard, but the rest doesn't stand for "Business School".

    I'm convinced that pay is the elephant that many managers want to ignore, so they invent other reasons to justify their title. Our dev team just lost a great team leader mainly due to pay. He was one of the few managment types I've ever seen actually know how to lead (he's a former Army captain). He "only" had a BSCS, and so according to the "rules", which appear on paper as well defined and equitable, they couldn't justify paying him anywhere near as much as other team leaders or even some team members. To add to the foolshness, they didn't even offer him a token raise to stay, which probably was in their ability. At least that would have kept team morale from sinking to the bottom since they could claimed they tried but it was out of their hands.

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    • Re:Why people really work (Score:2)

      by ask (83)

      I'm convinced that pay is the elephant that many managers want to ignore, so they invent other reasons to justify their title. Our dev team just lost a great team leader mainly due to pay.
      
      When I've done salary-ish full time work sometimes I've wanted more pay, but really it has always been a (bad) proxy for something else being wrong that it was harder to get the manager to fix.
      
      "More money" would help for a few months, but it can only suppress the real problem for so long.
      
        - ask

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      -- ask bjoern hansen [askbjoernhansen.com], !try; do();
      • Re:Why people really work (Score:1)

        by bluto (225)

        "More money" would help for a few months, but it can only suppress the real problem for so long.

        I agree, if money is being used as a band-aid it is only effective for a limited time. If money is used to award merit, it tends to have some results.

        One reason why I said he was "great" was because he didn't waffle under recently increasing pressure from above - a quality few have. One might say he just couldn't handle management's normal eccentricities and should step down. After hearing about the inane cr
    • Proof in the pudding, I guess (Score:1)

      by Aristotle (5147)

      You contradict yourself. If money was that important, why did morale sink to the bottom when the guy left? Noone’s salary changed.
      • Re:Proof in the pudding, I guess (Score:1)

        by bluto (225)

        I never said salary was all important. I said it was his reason for leaving. In his case I had to agree. Morale always goes down when your management rigidly follows rules, and ignores common sense.