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  • You're constantly referring to YAPC::Europe, but I think you ment YAPC::NA (at least in the first two paragraphs, as the rest is more general).
    • I did mean YAPC::Europe, but the thought could be applied to any YAPC. I'm more involved in YAPC::Europe, so that's where my natural focus lies. I couldn't afford to fund myself to go to Chicago anyway, but Europe is more feasible. I would be interested to discover what (if anything) we can do to keep new attendees coming back, or at least getting involved with the Perl community.
      • ok, but in your first sentence you said that you won't be speaking at this years YAPC::Europe because your talks (which link to YAPC::NA) are deemed too long...

        Regarding people coming back to YAPCs: I think that a lot of 'local' attendees still don't can or want to travel to next YAPC, which mostly isn't local. For example, there where 67 Austrians at YAPC::Europe 2007, but only 10 registered for 2008. Not everybody gets her trip payed by the employer, or wants to fund it on his own.

        OTOH, at YAPC::Europe

        • ok, but in your first sentence you said that you won't be speaking at this years YAPC::Europe because your talks (which link to YAPC::NA) are deemed too long...

          I'm doing the talks at YAPC::NA, but they're both too long for YAPC::Europe, which has a 30 minute time limit this year.

          I think that a lot of 'local' attendees still don't can or want to travel to next YAPC

          That's definitely a factor, but I'm hoping that we give them enough of a good experience that they do decide to go to another.

          Not everybody gets her trip payed by the employer

          Exactly, which is why I want to see if there is something we can do to encourage those people. With the economic downturn happening in the world at the moment, more companies are unlikely to be willing to send so many people these days. So we fall back on people funding themselves. Once upon a time we were aiming to encourage students to come along, we've rarely seen them these days. Part of that I think is that Perl is not being taught at Universities as much, but it would be nice to reach them too. Even if they only come to the local YAPCs :) Then possibly they might come along to others in the future when they graduate.

          Additionally, we now have something like 15 regular attendees to monthly techmeets

          So obviously the YAPC worked for Vienna, but what about those others from further afield who were attending for the first time? The fact that some of the Vienna attendees are now involved with the Perl community is brilliant. But what was it that inspired them, that hasn't inspired others previously? And more importantly can we keep being inspiring?

          It might be a good metric for community involvement of hardcore Perl maniacs :-)

          That's a fair point, and probably the perception that is being seen by some. May be we need to show you don't have to be a maniac to join the Perl community ... but it helps ;)

          • I'm doing the talks at YAPC::NA, but they're both too long for YAPC::Europe, which has a 30 minute time limit this year.

            Now I get it! :-)

            Yes, that hard 30 minute limit is a bit annoying, but it sure makes it easy to generate the schedule..