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All the Perl that's Practical to Extract and Report

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  • I'd talked about this earlier in a post to use perl: Pandora Awakens [perl.org].

    Another thought I have had run through what passes for my brain, is that we've certainly spent a whole lot of time tracking down the spammers themselves.. but they are NOT THE HEART OF THE PROBLEM! The heart of the problem is the people and companies paying the spammers .. Anything that actually goes after the companies hiring the spammers in the first place, would make far more sense and I think, be a much more serious deterrant.

    But

    • I also agree that the present e-mail system has got to go and preferably be replaced by something far more secure.

      What, specifically, are you going to throw out?

      Much of my job requires being able to receive e-mail from people I don't know yet. A fair chunk of my job means sending e-mail to quite a few people. I want both to be possible with a minimum of fuss!

      Just about every system I've seen proposed seriously has had flaws that would make it much more difficult for people like me to do our jobs.

      • If we do keep email (sigh, I can dream!), my thoughts run along the lines of being strict in how SMTP servers are authorized to speak to other servers, sorta like an SSL certificate. If you want to send email to me, you need to send it through an SMTP server that you are authorized to send through, that is certified to talk to another server, etc.

        If your SMTP server is used for spam, its certification will be revoked. You can seek certification elsewhere of course.

        This system is similar to what we have
      • Just about every system I've seen proposed seriously has had flaws that would make it much more difficult for people like me to do our jobs.
        Does that include SPF and AMTP? What's wrong with them?
        • My comment was ambiguous. I distrust every proposal I've seen for replacing SMTP. SPF goes a long way to solving the real problem: spoofing.

          (By identifying spoofed senders easily, server-side filtering can drop messages. If spammers can't spoof anymore, they can be traced. That's when fraud charges come in.)