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  • Been a while since I watched the film or read the book, but I definitely remember having to pass a picket line of mad christians on my way into the cinema.

    As I recall, their major problem was with the sequence where Jesus imagines what his life could have been like if he had ignored his religious calling. He imagines marrying Mary and one scene shows him having sex with her.

    I never understood why this annyed the christians so much as (as far as I can recall) nowhere in the bible does it say that Jesus was e
    • ...but if we take it as read that Jesus was celibate and unmarried, it doesn't matter. The movie doesn't say he was married or uncelibate!
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      rjbs
      • Actually since there is no mention of a wife, then we have to infer that he was unmarried and being unmarried he would have been celibate because the only "good" sex is in the context of marriage according the word of God and he would have been bound by that.

        And no, it doesn't matter a flip because IT'S A MOVIE.

        • Actually since there is no mention of a wife, then we have to infer that he was unmarried

          Actually, I don't think that we do.

          Firstly, pretty much every religious leader was married at that time. If Jesus hadn't been then that would have been unusual enough to have been mentioned in the gospels.

          Secondly, at the time women (particularly wives) we're very highly regarded so it would unsurprising if Jesus's wife wasn't mentioned.

          Thirdly, doesn't John's gospel keep mentioning "the disciple that Jesus lo

          • While women may not have been highly regarded by "man" that isn't so with "God" as there are many women mentioned in the OT and NT in pretty significant roles.

            Every Jewish Rabbi would have been married (probably) but Jesus was NOT a Rabbi (except in a teaching role). Traditions encouraging a dedicated single life also existed elsewhere in Judaism. Members of the ascetic Jewish sect of the Essenes were known for their emphasis on celibacy. All of Jesus' family is mentioned in scripture yet his "wife" would not be? When Paul was defending his right to have a wife (1 Corinthians 9:5), he mentioned that Peter and Barnabas had wives. Had Jesus been married, Paul would have certainly mentioned such an important detail; it would have clinched his argument.

            Thirdly, doesn't John's gospel keep mentioning "the disciple that Jesus loved".

            I hope you are not buying into that Da Vinci Code mess. The apostle John identified that he was that disciple and many other scriptures point to that fact as well. The phrase disciple whom Jesus loved or Beloved Disciple is used several times in the Gospel of John. It is the Beloved Disciple who asks Jesus during the Last Supper who it is that will betray him. During the crucifixion, Jesus indicates the Beloved Disciple and tells his mother "Woman, here is your son." To the Beloved Disciple (Greek male pronoun) he says, "Here is your mother." When Mary Magdalene discovers the empty tomb, she runs to tell the Beloved Disciple and Simon Peter. The Beloved Disciple is the first to reach the empty tomb, but Simon Peter is the first to enter.

            All that being said, it doesn't matter as both of those movies are fiction. They can say what they want and people shouldn't wierd out over it. The world will do what the world will do.