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All the Perl that's Practical to Extract and Report

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  • I no longer buy into the 'we will release when it's ready' perspective. At some point, it's just wanking--by the time you decide it's ready, Python, Ruby, and probably some feverish dream will have made Perl a language of the past. The preponderance of Linux has made bash, awk, and sed more attractive--and very stable. Combining those languages into an as yet undefined Perl6 is *not* a winning combination. Particularly as the CPAN which Perl mongers seem so proud of is a largely uncontrolled mess--there is
    • Any piece of crap seems able to make it into the CPAN.

      That’s why CPAN has succeeded and all other repositories to date either failed outright or stuck around but flounder.

      When you meander, and want trivial bucks vice doing it for love, you are dead, dead, dead. Show me the code. Something stable, that I can program against.

      Do you know how little manpower actually is behind the whole thing? Everyone wants it now, but people actually doing something about getting it now are a damn sight rarer.

      • I use the CPAN. Some of it is *great*. Some of it is more or less vital, for some of the things I do. As in not always having OS-native tools for things like current cryptographic hashes. Linux md5sum and sha1sum do not always satisfy the need. But in too many cases, you have to do to much legwork researching overall quality, and it's easier to just write what you need, and get an internal code review organized.

        "Do you know how little manpower actually is behind the whole thing?"

        That explains the *problem*,
        • I don't get it. Why are the minimal systems that include Python going to jump up and suddenly include Perl 6 when it comes out, which is a completely different language from Perl 5?

          And why the urgent need to, if your code is in Perl 5, migrate it to Perl 6, which is a completely different language? Or, if you are developing new code, why the need to do it in Perl 6 instead of Perl 5?

          You've got to do "stuff" in fairly short order. What? You have code you're considering migrating to Python or C. You

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          J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
          • I suspect you're doing so intentionally in order to come up with this artificial urgency so you can troll Perl in general because Perl 6 isn't here.

            That's a standard, passive-aggressive blackmail tactic. "If you don't do what I want RIGHT NOW, I will leave and take my non-contributing, useless, whiny stop energy somewhere else."

            If we can't discourage people from making those kinds of threats, we can at least encourage them to make good on their threats to leave.