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All the Perl that's Practical to Extract and Report

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  • > 4. I will always be enthusiastic about new volunteers, no
    > matter howmany times I hear:
    >
    > "Hi, I'd like to volunteer."
    > "Great! What would you like to do?"
    > "I don't know."
    > "How about X?"
    > "I don't want to do *that*."
    >
    > Or:
    >
    > "Hi, I'd like to volunteer to do Y."
    > "Great!" 1 month later: "Hey, how's Y going?"
    >

    Indeed. If I had a volunteer for every time I'd heard that...

    Unfortunately, it seems a lot of the time that volunteers, when asking
    • > Reducing barriers to entry seems to help.

      What's seen as barriers? I'm not personally aware of, in the past 5ish years I've been working with TPF, that anyone volunteering to help has been turned away.

      > And jobs for which people can gain both notariety and beer seem to be particularly attractive to volunteers.

      There is no notariety. Not even inter-TPF White Camels! And, for all TPF-related things I've done and people and I have helped with, I have yet to get a beer for it (I did get traditional gift for organizing/hosting a YAPC). Doing things for TPF is a thankless task, where you have to just be happy you're doing what you can for Perl and the community. If you expect more, you're setting yourself up for failure. I think what everyone has done within TPF has been completely altruistic, and that may sometimes be forgotten.
      • > What's seen as barriers? I'm not personally aware of, in the past 5ish years I've been working with TPF, that anyone volunteering to help has been turned away.

        It's true that I'm working with examples from technical projects here, but for one small example I've seen a tripling or better of small patches actually being applied to code since moving from SourceForge CVS to email-account based SVN.

        There's a couple of extra nigglies needed to get past the SourceForge permissions stuff, but even that was enou
      • And, for all TPF-related things I've done and people and I have helped with, I have yet to get a beer for it

        I tried to buy one for you on the boat at YAPC in Toronto, but then I couldn't find you (go figure--how can someone hide on a boat?). It was getting warm, so I think I gave it to Kurt.