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  • The source code for the site is available. Commit access is easy to get. If you have a better design, nothing stands in the way of your improvements.

    • About ten years of lost progress stand in the way of improvements. Need I list the number of programming languages that came and went in that time?

      Thankfully I am not paying for any of the group developing perl 6, I would be pretty annoyed if that were the case.

      I can fix the webpage, sure. I cannot, however, fix the last 10 years of perl 6 debacle.

      • About ten years of lost progress stand in the way of improvements.

        Are you really meaning to imply that there has been no progress on Perl (5 or 6) for the last ten years?

        Need I list the number of programming languages that came and went in that time?

        Yes, I think that would be very useful to me.

        Pm

        • I'm not implying, I'm saying that perl 6 is to perl what "heaven's gate" was to Michael Cimino's directorial career.

          Perl 5 is great, but the sheer amount of resources that have been put into vapourwareperl6 is mind-boggling. And *please* don't point me to some project saying "you can use it now" because you *know* perl 6 is not production quality.

          • To clarify: There has been a little bit of progress on perl 5, namely perl 5.10. Perl 6 is a disaster, a train-wreck, a lot of sweat (including mine) lost forever in a project that should have been finished 8 years ago.

            • To clarify: There has been a little bit of progress on perl 5, namely perl 5.10.

              Somehow I don't believe that Moose, DBIx::Class, Catalyst, etc. reasonably qualify as "a little bit of progress". I think they represent significant advancements. (And if I'm not mistaken, many of the ideas in Moose directly stem from concepts coming out of the design and implementation of Perl 6.)

              I also notice you have thus far not listed "any of the programming languages that have come and gone in [the past ten years]", per your original reply. I'm really curious to know what these are.

              Pm

              • I was not clear enough. I am a big fan of Moose, etc and did not want to belittle what perl 5 is. I just wanted to point out that, by wasting so much time with Perl 6, we lost a lot of work that could have gone to perl 5.

                • That's a false choice, it assumes that volunteer time is fungible and people will work on whatever they are told to.

                  The reality is that the TYPE of work greatly influences the volume of contribution.

              • You are not mistaken. Moose draws on Perl 6 (and/or Perl 6's influences) for much of its feature set.

                • I don't want to dismiss the originality of the perl 6 effort outright; but I have the feeling that Perl 6's influences are the proverbial shoulders of giants.

                  It's a moot point anyway, because noone can know for a fact what would have happened to perl 5 without Perl 6.

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