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All the Perl that's Practical to Extract and Report

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  • by pdcawley (485) on 2002.01.22 17:22 (#3530) Homepage Journal
    And I'll no doubt say it again, but we have done ourselves no favours over the years.

    I've met and worked with competent perl programmers over the years who have heard of comp.os.lang.perl.misc, if only because it was mentioned in the camel and llama. But they don't actually participate because they've seen what happens to newbies who ask questions.

    These are people that we want in the community and we have successfully alienated them.

    So, what to do? Let's be ambassadors for our community. Listen to people. Learn. Teach. Remember, if someone chooses not to like perl that's not your problem. Hell, it's only a programming language.
    • Very True.

      I read somewhere recently but I cannot remember where that you can judge a man not by the way he treats his peers but rather by the way he treats those who he is superior to.

      Most people need to get along with his/her peers and obvious there superiors but there is only really a moral compulsion to behave appropriately to those who you are superior too.

      In this case it obviously even easier to behave poorly to people who don't understand the culture or the language of Perl because there is litt

      • I read somewhere recently but I cannot remember where that you can judge a man not by the way he treats his peers but rather by the way he treats those who he is superior to.

        The problem is that it is rare that anyone is superior to anyone else. I am superior to my children, certainly, but I am not superior to the moron who comes into clp.misc asking how to get the length of a string. I know more than he does about Perl, but I am not superior to him. And as such, I don't treat him as though I am superio
    • It's not as if this issue hasn't come up on clpm before. If I recall correctly, a common response talks about burnout. Some people feel responsible for responding to each newbie's question before they get a questionable, or wrong, or brittle answer from another newbie and leave thinking they just received the One True Answer (after all -- hey, it works!).

      This is coupled with a large number of newbies who ask similar questions time after time, many of which are answered in some way or another in the FAQ, a

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