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All the Perl that's Practical to Extract and Report

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  • There's a simple explanation for the disconnect in user perception of Perl6's status: All of the relevant websites that SHOULD be posting a big giant "DOWNLOAD PERL6 HERE" links are failing to provide such things.

    Going to Rakudo.org gives me... the latest meeting minutes and some links to "other sites", but NOWHERE on the page is a "Here's how you get Rakudo" or even so much as a "What the hell is Rakudo, and why didn't we bother just calling it Perl6?"

    Going to perlfoundation.org/perl6, the download links are miniscule and buried halfway down the page. Not only that, but I end up clicking through three more pages before getting anything remotely resembling download instructions.

    Going to dev.perl.org/perl6, I find no mention at all about rakudo, and no explanation of what Parrot or Pugs are until I actually click a couple of links in.

    I disagree with the previous poster that said you need "alpha" or "beta" releases. You don't. You simply need a clear way to download the code that isn't buried in the murky depths of some wiki.

    Ultimately, the reason nobody is using perl6 is because the perl6 guys have done a terrible job of making perl6 easy to obtain.

    Give people a single link to click on the front page of perl.org for the latest release in tar.bz2 format. It needs to be that simple.

    • Ultimately, the reason nobody is using perl6 is because the perl6 guys have done a terrible job of making perl6 easy to obtain.

      That's concrete feedback and fixable. We can work on that. Thank you.

      • It would be worthwhile to make some noise about November in close vicinity to the Perl 6 download link as a “look! that’s what real-world Perl 6 code looks like, and it runs today” demonstration, to impart the idea that what’s there is tangible and not a mere declaration of intent that’s of interest mainly to language lawyers – even if it’s not complete and nowhere near fast enough for real work.

        • It would be worthwhile to make some noise about November in close vicinity to the Perl 6 download link as a “look! that’s what real-world Perl 6 code looks like, and it runs today” demonstration, to impart the idea that what’s there is tangible and not a mere declaration of intent that’s of interest mainly to language lawyers –

          Thanks for the confidence. As far as I'm concerned, the more noise about November, the better.

          even if it’s not complete and nowhere near fast enough for real work.

          Actually, it's fast enough [perl.org] nowadays, even though some caveats apply. But we are still working on the basic wiki features, and despite the progress we're making and the fun we're having on the way, these are early days still.