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• Yup... (Score:2)

  by Matts (1087)

  I found it rather offensive. I also loved how he defined a "just war" as one where you "really believe" the made-up facts against Iraq (and then goes on a rant about violating sanctions, yet these were UN sanctions and the UN did not authorise this war). Presumably made up facts about Iran will also be justification for an invasion.
  
  Yeah that makes a whole lot of sense now - GWB really believed all those "facts", so it MUST be Just.
  • Re: (Score:2)

    by pudge (1)

    I also loved how he defined a "just war" as one where you "really believe" the made-up facts against Iraq
    
    You love how I did something that I didn't do?
    
    Try listening again. What I said was that you can define it either way. If going into Iraq is to stop Hussein from doing something terrible, that is Just, according to the Just War Theory. This is a given. And I said the war is NOT a Just War if you think the motives were otherwise, such as for oil.
    
    and then goes on a rant about violating sanctions, yet th
    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Matts (1087)

      Try listening again. What I said was that you can define it either way. If going into Iraq is to stop Hussein from doing something terrible, that is Just, according to the Just War Theory. This is a given. And I said the war is NOT a Just War if you think the motives were otherwise, such as for oil.
      
      You're very careful to not say whether or not you think it is or isn't a Just war. If you believe that it wasn't Just based on your reasoning then please feel free to respond to this comment indicating so. Otherw
      • Re: (Score:2)

        by pudge (1)

        You're very careful to not say whether or not you think it is or isn't a Just war.
        
        Correct. The reason is simple: because I am not entirely sure, and even to the extent I think it is, I wouldn't try to convince anyone else.
        
        Just because I am opinionated doesn't mean I have come to a conclusion about everything, or that I would attempt to convince others of all my opinions.
        
        If you believe that it wasn't Just based on your reasoning then please feel free to respond to this comment indicating so.
        
        There is no "fac
        • Re: (Score:2)

          by Matts (1087)

          You can't even comment on your misrepresentation about what I actually said? Oh, come on ...
          
          I don't believe I did that, so what can I say? I'm sorry you think so, but that's one of those back-handed apologies that isn't worth much. Regarding your lack of criticism of the Bush administration - perhaps I've been reading the wrong blog and if so I can apologise for my lack of knowledge on that. Certainly I can't recall any such criticisms on use.perl though maybe my memory is faulty.
          
          Your reasoning for believin
          • Re: (Score:2)

            by pudge (1)

            I don't believe I did that, so what can I say?
            
            So you still think I defined a "just war" as one where you "really believe" the made-up facts against Iraq. Except, I didn't. I said that that reasoning could be one justification for saying the war was Just. But I added quickly that there was no obligation to believe those things, and that if you didn't, well, then probably, to you it wasn't Just. I did not define what a Just War was, I simply gave one way in which you could reasonably call the war Just, an
            • Re:Yup... (Score:3, Funny)

              by jdavidb (1361) on 2006.09.28 12:54 (#50548) Homepage Journal

              I found much more reasoned and dispassionate and interesting discussion on my Slashdot journal.

              Man, that's pathetic. Who runs this place, anyway?

              :P

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