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    • Randal L. Schwartz
    • Stonehenge
  • You probably know it anyway, but this document should be required-reading for all men: HOWTO Encourage Women in Linux [tldp.org].

    WRT your first point, time: I share all household and kids work with my partner very equal. When going to a conference, I have to handle all the things mentioned in your bulleted list. Most of the time it involves sending the kids to grandparents et.al.

    I'm working half-time (and I never worked full-time since I started working 8 years ago). Not only to have more time for open-source, rea

  • First, I'll get the obligatory statement that I find Randal's boothbabes and booty calls to tiajuana at oscon to be a contributing factor as well as hold responsible the silent majority of those too spineless to say anything about it. Go chew on that somewhere randal.

    Aside from the pages of ranting I could write about my 15 or more years in largely male dominated fields, I'm really fucking tired of guys asking where all the women are. Even Larry succumbed to the same pointless whinge at YAPC one year. I

    • In this particular case, it's the women asking this dumb, obvious question. And we're asking it of ourselves. Enough of us go to conferences to wish there were more of us there.

      We ask the harder questions too. Like how can we stand up for ourselves/each other against dumb racist, sexist or other unpleasant jokes and comments without exposing ourselves and each other to further ridicule? Like how we can encourage better behaviour all round?

      The men are presumably getting better. A few years ago th

      • Oops, didn't know you were a woman. Even so, a dumb question unless you get beyond that single dumb question. Think of it like a diversity training course at the office....mostly pointless but somehow makes people feel better thinking that they're doing something instead of helping perpetuate the status quo. I don't know that the guys are getting better, perhaps just better and staying silent and looking the other way. There is no risk in asking why there aren't more women around since it's easy to simply

  • generally thinking "boy, those guys are a bunch of pigs." And they're right.

    Not everyone, certainly, but enough to make you queasy if you pay attention to the conversations at the conferences. It's unpleasant enough when it's not directed at you or your group, but it's downright nauseating if you're the target. The tacit approval it all gets (because, as Elaine points out, pretty much nobody says anything when someone gets obnoxious) makes it worse.

    It really shouldn't be much of a surprise there aren't ma