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  • how people in the UK can welcome the retinal scan for payment of school lunches yet bristle about a lowly ID card. I'll be getting a national ID when I enter Finland and it doesn't bother me since the US has been tracking people for so long in all but the reality of an ID card that it seems late and extraneous at this point. I'm sure the UK isn't much different in this respect. Why all the fuss over something that is really just a foregone conclusion?

    • Why all the fuss over something that is really just a foregone conclusion?

      The UK government is already tracking people, typically using their national insurance number (social security number, which nearly everyone has, but isn't compulsary). The fuss is more about how they are trying to slip this through without any real debate, and how they are trying to spin things (as usual) to hide what they don't want you to spot. They say "it's not compulsory", where they clarify that as "it's not going to be compulsory to carry one". What they're trying to hide is that they do intend to make it compulsory to have one.

      If they were open about it, there would be less fuss. If they'd put it in their manifesto there would be less fuss. But they are not, and they did not. They are a bunch of high handed manipulative paternalistic control freaks. Unfortunately they have no effective opposition, they are unlikely to get kicked out anytime soon, and the likely alternative is on average no better.

      • The US is in much the same position though, in all honesty, I don't see how requiring people to carry ID is really all that objectionable considering that it's merely a formality given the amount of information that is already collected daily by government and private agencies. There are laws in some US states and municipalities which require a citizen to carry no less than $10 in cash on their person lest they be arrested for vagrancy as well as some form of ID be it a drivers license or a state ID card. T