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  • It really hurts my throat to say this, but we've got to vote Chirac in the second round, and to convince everyone around us that they have to do the same. Unless you're a chiraquian -- and even on the right wing very few people are these days, him being a crook and all that -- it probably hurts, possibly deeply. But it's really got to be an electoral landslide so that we can bury the fascist pig under our votes and tell Chirac at the same time that he wasn't elected by those that support him.

    And th


    -- Robin Berjon []

    • It really hurts my throat to say this, but we've got to vote Chirac in the second round, and to convince everyone around us that they have to do the same

      Merely theoretical question, mind you, but one what might relate to the current problems in France: What happens under the French constitution if Chirac or Le Pen is elected, and then assassinated? (Or otherwise suddenly dies.)

      • This has come up a bunch of times in many, many discussions recently...

        If a candidate dies during the second round runoff, the elections are cancelled and we start all over again (ie, it isn't the third one that becomes second).

        If a President dies in exercize (it's happened already) there is a short period of interim governed (I think) by the Prime Minister the purpose of which is to have a new election take place.

        In other words there is no vice-president, and yes it's technically a sol


        -- Robin Berjon []

        • If you know of any suicidal madmen, you'd do 60 million people a big favour

          Far be it for me to advocate the assassination of a foreign "leader" (to do that, I'd have to be in the US State Department) -- but, since when does one have to be a madman to put someone out of the country's misery?

          By the way, is there any provision for "recall elections" under the French constitution? I.e., a petition forcing a re-vote.

          • Well, you might not need to be a madman, but you'd at least need to be suicidal :-) Chirac is still President while he's candidate, and thus under presidential protection (read: real elite stuff). Le Pen has his own squad (in addition to the cops provided for candidate security) called the DPS. Those guys are almost, but not quite, illegal. Not long ago several of them were arrested because they had been hired by "someone" to "someone else" to commit putshes in several African nations. The FN was never found to be directly related, but...

            So either way, whoever manages to kill would most likely die.

            There is no provision for a recall election of any sort. This consitution was made by de Gaulle, and thus tends to grant the President royal status (albeit for a limited amount of time). It sucks, that's why I'm thinking seriously about joining the C6R, a committee for the VIth Republic.


            -- Robin Berjon []