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All the Perl that's Practical to Extract and Report

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  • Oracle DBA is a full time job, and you rarely get time to do more than the odd shell script for automation.. Maybe its an unfair generalization, but for non-programmers, the cleanness of PL/SQL code is probably a big deal..

    I doubt many people are interested in TIMTOWTDI if it can just get the job done..In the same way that my parents dont really care about the mechanics of email so long as they can mail their friends from time to time :)

    • Oh, I think Feuerstein and Pribyl are all about TIMTOWTDI. They're just missing a lot. They are programmers, btw, not DBAs.

      Currently I take issue with anything that describes PL/SQL as "clean." :) That may change once I speak like a native, though. When I pointed out Pribyl's comment that PL/SQL was more readable than Perl, my point was that he was wrong (though probably for the same reason I don't think PL/SQL is clean: he doesn't speak Perl). Of course, good programmers can write COBOL in any langu

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      J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
      • FWIW, I think I speak PL/SQL better than any other language, and I think it is cleaner..

        To me, PL/SQL is like Modula-2 (a Pascal-like language that I learnt in uni).. It forces you to concentrate on certain things and the core language itself is very simple.. Perl, for me, is different.. yes, you CAN write code that is as ordered as PL/SQL, but you dont have to.. Consequently, its more powerful. (rule breaking is a good thing, at times)..

        I didnt know that they (Fuerstein and Pribyl) werent DBAs first and programmers later.. Maybe that's even a good thing (sometimes I get frustrated at how small and seemingly limited PL/SQL is compared to other languages.. try using UTL_File for example)

        What makes PL/SQL neat, though, is how closely its bound with Oracle SQL.. (note: not any old SQL variant, but Oracle SQL).. you have decode, connect by and lots of other neat little tricks which are very hard to duplicate in other languages

        /me stops rambling and gets back to work.. ;)

        • Thanks for the insight. Ask me in a year or so, and I'll be able to offer a more educated opinion as to whether I really think PL/SQL is clean or not. I think what makes me feel it isn't clean is that it's so verbose. Just seems to have tremendously long keywords and a tremendous number of required ones.

          I am pretty certain they are primarily programmers, not DBAs. O'Reilly's DBA books are written by other authors. Feuerstein, I know, was doing Oracle for McDonald's (contract work, I presume), when O'

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          J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers