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  • I don't think you can compare european and north-american politics in terms of "left" and "right". For example, in the USA, everyone seems to find normal the statement "God bless America", or that a president alludes in public to his religious beliefs. In France, even the ultra-far-right representatives avoid doing this (in public at least), because this would be felt as a direct attack against the Republic. -- Idem for the problem of racial segregation, which is often tied to immigration in Europe, not in
    • exactly - there is only right of centre in america - if you compare it to europe or japan.

      The UK never had deliberate policies of racial segregation - some pubs used to have 'no dogs, no irish, no blacks' but that was a long time ago and never an official or even popular policy.

      Britain and europe never really had a culture of slavery - they benefitted greatly from slavery elswhere and through the slave trade but a lot less than the United States, where slavery was a major part of its economy and culture for a long time and a root of many of its racial problems today.

      Puzzlingly the far-right nationalists are closer to socialist policies than the more moderate and popular parties in the UK like Tory and Labour (but possibly not lib-dem or green).

      The UK has had problems not because of slavery but because of immigration and its empire-building, the latter causing the former.

      Different kettles of fish but its pretty clear that the forces of the far right such as 'pro-lifers', creationists and racists have a much bigger grip on the US.

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      • This statement: Britain and europe never really had a culture of slavery - they benefitted greatly from slavery elswhere and through the slave trade but a lot less than the United States, where slavery was a major part of its economy and culture for a long time and a root of many of its racial problems today.

        Nearly make me spit soda out of my nose.

        You are of course kidding right? You do of course remember that little period of world history often refered to as "The Age of Colonization". That period whe

        • In fairness, he did say that Britain benefitted from slavery.

          But, yeah, it is kind of odd to say that Europe never had a 'culture of slavery' when Spanish, Portuguese and English settlers introduced slavery into North America, enslaving the Indians and bringing in African slaves to work the large plantations they developed there.

          Probably the primary reason there was so little slavery in Europe was the serfdom of European peasants. Why go to the trouble of buying and importing troublesome slaves when serf

            • I wonder if we can trace any European attitudes of today to their serfdom at the hands of noblemen for many hundreds of years? Serfdom existed in Europe far longer than slavery existed in America.

            I'll answer my own question. Perhaps this [city-journal.org] can be explained by Europe's long history of a class-based society with little mobility.

      • The UK never had deliberate policies of racial segregation

        sorry Teejay but I must call bullshit. I was born in Kent, grew up in a little village in Essex and spent the last 2 years of my UK soujourn (1971-1984) in eastern suburbs of London. I can tell you that even at that young age I was well aware of institutional racism. For instance I went to a comprehensive because (as my father later heard from a friend) the local grammar school already had "too many" asians. Ok there was no official policy but t

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      • Choose politics. Choose a party affiliation. Choose an office as your goal. Choose your trophy spouse. Choose a fucking big house. Choose power lunches, drunken boating trips, hookers and crooks...choose CSPAN and wondering who the fuck you are watching a Senate hearing. Choose sitting in Congress listening to an ancient man read from a phonebook. Choose photo-op-ing your way to the end, becoming an official United States Lobbyist Figurehead, nothing more than an embarrassment to the party, the selfish wast
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