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    • And in fact, the current attitude of the USA may actually pay in the short term, for the limited zone of Iraq; but, for a load of reasons, it's also creating more anti-americanism, more anti-semitism, and thus more terrorism...

    The article you quote is how Europe is growing more anti-American and more anti-Semetic.

    Are you seriously saying that terrorists are being bred in Europe? Do you know any Europeans who are going to suicide bomb Americans over this?

    I don't think the US is breeding more terrorists with its foreign policy. The lines are already brightly drawn. The religious fanatics don't really need anything more, they only use a war against Iraq as a pretext, an excuse to proclaim hatred they already deeply feel. The only terrorists of great concern are the potential martyrs. These are all religious fanatics already and don't need more convincing.

    • The long term effects of a war in Iraq might well be the exact opposite of what they want.

    Liberating Iraq could help alleviate terrorism the the long term. The situation today is untenable. Saddam Hussein starves and deprives his people of basic medical care while he builds mobile biolabs and more and better missiles. Al Qaeda blames the deprivations of the Iraqi people on America and it's allies.

    What's are we to do? Release the sanctions (something no member of the UN Security Council has recommended)? Keep the sanctions up and allow more Iraqi children to die and more hatred to fester over this? What is your plan? Not just platitudes. I want to know what you would do.

    A liberated, free Iraq, along with a liberated free Afghanistan and hopefully soon an Iran freed by internal forces could go a long way toward removing the true root causes of terrorism; poverty, ignorance and hopelessness.

    Americans know that we must take an active stance here. We can't sit back and think that Nuclear and biological terrorism cannot come to our shores. Showing weakness to these monsters will only encourage them. They have stated, quite clearly, that the war is on and that there is no solution short of complete and total subjugation of the US and Israel. You might choose to believe they are not capable of this today, but how far are we from that day?

    • Are you seriously saying that terrorists are being bred in Europe?Ever heard about Zacharias Moussaoui ?
        • Ever heard about Zacharias Moussaoui ?

        Yes, a Muslim of North African extraction. Sure, some Muslim extremists grow up in Europe. Those Muslim extremists are already convinced that the US must be destroyed and need no more motivation.

        To them, a war in Iraq is just a pretext to action, not their motivation. These people will not be satisfied until the whole world is converted to Islam at the point of a sword. Moussaoui's statements in open court are that Spain should be returned to Islamic rule and t [washtimes.com]

        • Zacharias Moussaoui doesn't come from nowhere. He is (strictly speaking) a french citizen with north african origins and a jewish forename, just like me, although I'm not a muslim. Thus, I think that I can understand a bit the process that turns a perfectly normal french citizen into a brainwashed fanatic soldier, ready to give his life for some religious sect. Moussaoui didn't grew up in the hate of jews. His parents were normal, honest, tolerant. I've seen his mother on TV explaining what's the jihad --
            • Zacharias Moussaoui doesn't come from nowhere. He is (strictly speaking) a french citizen with north african origins and a jewish forename, just like me, although I'm not a muslim.

            This reminds me of Salvidor Dali's quote "The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad."

            Oh my gosh! I just realized that I have a jewish forename! Had I been born in Europe, I guess I could have been a terrorist as well!

            • And this initial point is currently given (among others) by the US foreign policy.