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  • I thought it was funny.

    Every geek knows the stereotypical "no girlfriend" label that we have, and it's just a play on that. I think you're trying too hard to be offended.
    • I'm not trying that hard to be offended. I heard about this ad from several people at OSCON who didn't like it and I thought it was a bad joke. I found the real ad, thought it was crass and don't want to quietly stand by while people continue to treat women like this, and I made this post.

      Perhaps you disagree, and that's fine. You can disagree without an ad hominen attack, though.
      • I wasn't trying to attack you. I prefixed it with "I think" because that was just a thought. I'm open to being wrong, and apologize if I offended you.
        • The problem in these cases is that people don't realize the effect of the things they support or say. You say that didn't realize that your post was an attack on me. Is it possible that you also didn't think about the effect of the ad on other people? These things are problems precisely because people do them without considering what harm they might do.

          Without thinking, you accepted the stereotype, endorsed its use, and then tried to undercut the person pointing it out. That is, of course, the exact proces
          • I see far too much political correctness in the world - fuck that. Stereotypes can be funny. See for example the comedy of David Chappelle.

            I thought the ad was funny - poking fun at the geek stereotype. I believe it's *far* better to think the stereotype is funny than to worry about it being hurtful to either sex.

            So I do accept the stereotype. And yes I did think about it, but feel free to throw ad-hominem attacks back at me - way to go.
            • by pudge (1) on 2007.08.02 13:29 (#56683) Homepage Journal

              I thought the ad was funny - poking fun at the geek stereotype. I believe it's *far* better to think the stereotype is funny than to worry about it being hurtful to either sex.
              The problem is, worrying or not, it IS hurtful. It's beyond mere political correctness. Getting respect as a woman, in this business in particular, is hard. And this sort of thing palpably makes it harder. It's a shame, but there it is.

              What really makes me boggle is that if there had been some ad geared toward Christians in the magazine, we'd be seeing a huge outcry about it. How dare they alienate atheists! But alienating women? Eh, that's funny!