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• doubtful (Score:1)

  by Qiang (5577)

  where is AU ? that's some nice trends you described there. comments on the rest...
  
  shoud we be worried that there are not many competent perl programmers for hiring? i am afraid that companies will be forced to look for replacements and this will turn into a bad circle.
  
  as for fun part of the language, It's the main reason why i like perl. It's fun and much freedom to write prgram in perl even though english is not my 1st language. i would hate to see perl lose the fun.
  
  i do understand the need for the changes
  • Re:doubtful (Score:1)

    by Alias (5735)

    Australia. And maybe good for a while, until the company converts the entire department to Java because they can't find enough Perl people.
    
    There is no reason Perl can't also be fun. If you personally want to write fun things, that is not a problem. But if coding for a company, one of the criteria is that things are more maintanable, more standard, and yes sometimes less fun.
    
    The changes perhaps need to be something _added_ to the wider experience of the Perl/CPAN/etc rather than remove from just perl the lan
• Dont forget Catalyst (Score:1)

  by sir_lichtkind (5541)

  its founded by sebastian Riedel(german too).
• Re: (Score:1)

  by Aristotle (5147)

  My experience, being German-by-origin (but Greek-by-ancestry), doesn’t quite match up with that. If you step outside those cities, it gets really hard to sustain any sort of group.

  I tried to run one here in Cologne, which eventually became cologne.pm [pm.org], but while the group isn’t as dead as its website, it’s just barely on this side of death.

  I feel terribly lonely in my geekiness…
  • Re: (Score:1)

    by Alias (5735)

    Sure. The big 4 cities seem to be Perl centres, and other places not so much. But you'll find that in quite a few places.
    
    All countries seem to have their big Perl cities, with other places the community is not so active. Brisbane.pm is just this side of death almost constantly.
    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Aristotle (5147)

      Hmm, can you list which four you’re thinking of?
  • Re: (Score:1)

    by reneeb (6493)

    I think, some Perlmonger-groups should do some kind of "Marketing". I think Dresden.pm makes a good job. They provide a Perl-Talk (Tutorial) at the Linux-Day in Dresden, so they are in the public's mind.
    
    Frankfurt.pm is currently growing. I think this is a result of the activies. Not in "Marketing" like the Dresden.pm does, but the members are very active at the base:
    One of them is the webmaster of Perl-Community.de, that provides a Wiki (FAQ, Perldoc (some in german) and some snippets), a Forum and lots
    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Aristotle (5147)

      That sounds quite sensible. I think I’ll post a pointer to this to the list.