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  • by jhi (318) <jhi@iki.fi> on 2002.10.21 8:54 (#14079) Homepage Journal

    While I also found BeOS nice and I'm sad that it didn't survive (businesswise), saying that "only now UNIX is catching on with BeOS (featurewise)" is a bit parochial, to say the least... "What do you mean by UNIX, white man?" That a particular strain of Linux/BSD gains a feature doesn't mean that only know "UNIX as a whole" (whatever that means) gains a feature. SMP? Been there for I think decades, certainly for more than a decade. Journaling (data or metadata or both)? Been there for more than a decade. 64-bitness? Been there for more than a decade. And so forth.

    In other words: while it is nice to snicker at other platforms getting feature X only now when BeOS had that one four years ago, please check your facts before claiming that BeOS was there first, so that you are not snickered at yourself.

    I learned my lesson in not snickering by being an ex-Amiga user. Sure it was cool, "ahead of its time", but very few features were really trailblazing. It was the combination of them, and few hardware things, that made it great. And it is in a quite similar position as BeOS: the enthusiasts are keeping the flame alive, by emulators and such.

    • Ok, let's talk just about Linux specifically.

      SMP? Been there for I think decades, certainly for more than a decade

      It wasn't until Mandrake 7.2 that I could even get Linux to recognize my second CPU. Given that BeOS had SMP support in mind from day 1, I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that their implementation is at least as good as, and probably better than, Linux SMP support. I'm not sure where windows is at these days - NT was at 80% of up to 4 cpu's (max) last I heard.

      Journaling (data or

      • That sounds better, I'm fine with taking shots at Linux geeks :-) Somehow, oddly (since they seem to think of themselves as tecnoliterati), they are often quite ignorant of technological advancements existing or happening anywhere outside of Linux... somewhat reminiscent of Windows users, actually.

        (Of course, I'm a BSD-head, so take my grumpiness about "Linux freaks" with appropriate amounts of chlorides.)

        Which kind of journaling BeFS had/has? I've packed away my BeFS book by Giampaolo or I would

        • since they seem to think of themselves as tecnoliterati

          Dear Jarkko,

          Please never, ever, ever, even in your most frothy, vitrolic post use the word tecnoliterati again.

          I need the vapors...

          • Just to clarify I of course didn't refer to Linux geeks as the wannabe-literati of high-beat or trance music, with or without an aitch :-)
          • What do you mean, you need the vapors? I think you can probably find "Turning Japanese" on gnutella... ;-)
            • A. I like the Vapors. They rock.

              B. It took me three re-reads to correctly reading 'Turning' and not 'Turing'. Sad, sad day.

        • Which kind of journaling BeFS had/has? I've packed away my BeFS book by Giampaolo or I would check myself... Data, metadata, both, something else?

          I think it's metadata, but I don't know the nitty-gritty details. Here's an interesting (if older) article that may also be of interest to you:

          http://www.byte.com/documents/s=620/byt20010531s0001/index.htm

          OS X users should be happy to have Giampaolo in their camp at least.