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  • Don't mention unicode around mr. jark. As one of the few porters left with a regular day job these days he spends his nights fighting with this rather sad state in perl. It has made some progress in the last year though so give the man some props :)

    • What I was postulating was that because Perl is so good with ASCII, people have the same expectation that it will be as good with unicode. We take for granted all the automagical string things that Perl does and I'm guessing this is what's making unicode so difficult to integrate into the language. If Perl merely said "there's a unicode module for making unicode objects which has index() and substr() methods," then Jarkko's life would be carefree indeed. Unfortunately, we Perl users want all our favorite Pe
      • None taken my sweet :) I just meant to imply that mr jark feels your pain as I can tell by the grimace on his face when he's working on Unicode or the engine that dare not speaketh its name.

  • I posted a comment on perlmonks [] recently about this need for Perl people to put down Java, but a couple more things:

    Dedicated IDEs are bullshit. There, I said it. Coders shouldn't handle their code with the tongs of an IDE, like some poor MS Word shlub. If the java folks have more IDEs than Perl People, good on 'em.

    The thing missing from this statement is some sort of qualification, like "for me". I am more productive in xemacs and a CLI, but I'd never presume to tell someone else their tools are shit

    • As the self-appointed perl historian I always find it amusing when people ask how to make their own CPAN. All you have to do is read the packrats archive [] to see that there was little discussion about the matter and 2 guys who just put something together and did it. PAUSE is the killer app, CPAN is merely the distribution method :)

    • The problem is the Perl is ghettoized in programming community at large. If you read the original Slashdot thread, this will become very apparent. It is my belief that too many programmers have no real idea how their code and the bare-metal machine on which it runs work together. The whole notion of an application dedicated to programming is really a windows concept. In unix, the WHOLE operating system is the IDE. In Windows, user-end programming feels like an afterthought.

      Also here at use.perl, I know I'm

      • I hear you about Perl being ghettoized. But I've found that people who can put two clues together will be convinced when I quickly create something that works well and reliably. Or when someone asks, "Do you know if we can...?" and I immediately respond: "There's a module for that. I've used it. It's easy."

        People who aren't convinced by results aren't going to be convinced by anything, and they'll pass from fad to fad and eventually (in a perfect world?) seek their natural level. After a few strenuous tri