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All the Perl that's Practical to Extract and Report

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  • I deeply respect and admire the work of everyone who's contributed to the Perl core, from tests to documentation to smoke results and bug reports. I still believe that the Perl 5 release process is badly broken, and the fact that the first "major" release of Perl 5 in five and a half years is a "testing" release is a symptom of that.

    • I can't use it at work because of that label.

      • Here's the pickle. People don't want to label their software as stable until other people test it and report it as stable. Other people don't want to run unstable software. As a consequence, alphas don't get tested. Betas don't get tested. Release candidates don't get tested. Stable testing releases don't get tested.

        Release labels don't work. Long feature freezes which produce labeled releases don't work, at least if you want to produce stable software that people will use.

        I owe the world a long rant

        • Oh I agree. "I" would definitely use it at work. I keep hammering away at doggedly stubborn management.

        • > Stable testing releases don't get tested.

          90% of Strawberry Perl downloads are the stable testing release (500-1000 a day)

          10% of Strawberry Perl downloads are the stable release (50-100 a day)

          Dunno about the rest of the platforms, but the Windows world is testing the hell out of 5.10.0.

          • That's really interesting! Do you have a conjecture as to why this is? I'd love to know how to duplicate this for other projects.

            • You did not ask me but here is my take on it:

              For one, the Strawberry [strawberryperl.com] web site does not say testing and all things equal people tend to go with the higher version.

              IMHO In the Windows world it is much more common to download your software while most of the linux/UNIX people will go with the one that is in the distro.
              Besides we don't have numbers for download to Linux/Unix.

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              • For one, the Strawberry web site does not say testing and all things equal people tend to go with the higher version.

                Ah, there's the biggest reason.