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  • Pudge said: "Historical perspective: the modern U.S. term "conservative" is primarily a reference to libertarian ideals of small government"

    As a starting point (or I will consider your starting point), how about:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism [wikipedia.org]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarians [wikipedia.org]

    So would the small government of your conservatism keep itself out of gay marriage, recreational drug use, prostitution, and such? Or just keep itself out of gun control?
    • So would the small government of your conservatism keep itself out of gay marriage, recreational drug use, prostitution, and such? Or just keep itself out of gun control?

      Insofar as they are unrelated to the government and do not harm other people, yes. Obviously, gay marriage -- as an issue -- is closely related to the government, since what is desired is a sanctioning of a particular type of a union by the government. It's extraordinarily specious to frame gay marriage as a private, personal issue, since
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        Pudge said: "Historical perspective: the modern U.S. term "conservative" is primarily a reference to libertarian ideals of small government"

        I guess I should have said:

        Are you crazy? How can you say that the modern U.S. term "conservative" is primarily a reference to libertarian ideals of small government? Do you think legalizing recreational drug use, prostitution, and gay marriage are "conservative" goals of US conservatives?

        It seems to me that you equated conservatism in large part with libertariani