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  • Perlmonks is a tribe. I am not ashamed of that, because admission to this particular tribe is freely granted, and explusion requires a demonstrated systematic blatent disregard for sense and sensibility, and unwillingness to just "get" what the tribe is about.

    Wassercrats got expelled.

    At some point, the tribe members had had enough. There's no formal mechanism for excommunication, as there is with some tribes, so the closest thing is to provide appropriate XP voting and followups, especially linking to similar past behavior, so that tribal juniors can be brought up to speed on the status.

    Maybe in your ideal world, tribes don't exist. Maybe you got shut out of the cliques to which you wanted in school. But on this planet, tribes exist, and without them, we wouldn't have made it this far, right or wrong as that may be.

    The actions around Wassercrats are justified by tribal behavior in reaction to Wassercrats own behavior. This is not prejudice. This is judgement, as a protection of the greater whole.

    • Randal L. Schwartz
    • Stonehenge
    • I went back and forth on it, and finally decided that a comment this interesting really required a reply - so at the risk of appearing to merely be trying to get the last word ;-) (which isn't the reality) ...

      It's a reasonable notion and certainly intelligently put forth: that (paraphr) "Perlmonks is a tribe and the tribe expelled Wassercrats". After thinking about the proposal for a bit I realized with a bit of a start that I sensed ESR (Eric Raymond, for those readers who aren't Merlyn, etc) ... not tha

      • I'm more happy if Perlmonks isn't a tribe and doesn't become one.
        Then be unhappy. I think your denial of this point is what causes your grief about the results.

        I'm very clear that monks, like many other parts of the Perl community, and to a lesser extent, the Perl community as a whole, exhibits all the symptoms of classical tribalism.

        To not understand that, and worse, to deny that, leads to disappointment.

        • Randal L. Schwartz
        • Stonehenge
      • Says Intrepid: "There's a bit of real illness going on over at Perlmonks"

        Yeah. It's you. Wake up and smell your own hypocrisy.