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  • I don't think chromatic is proposing that Perl start break back compat willy nilly. He's been quite clear that he wants to see Perl on a time-based release cycle with published deprecation schedules.

    Imagine if Perl release 4 times a year. Then if there was a desire to deprecate something, a release could say "feature X will be removed after 6 more releases, 18 months from now".

    That seems pretty reasonable.

    Furthermore, no one out there is jumping from 5.6 to 5.10 without some serious testing. Even with Perl'

    • I don't think chromatic is proposing that Perl start break back compat willy nilly. He's been quite clear that he wants to see Perl on a time-based release cycle with published deprecation schedules.

      Imagine if Perl release 4 times a year. Then if there was a desire to deprecate something, a release could say "feature X will be removed after 6 more releases, 18 months from now".

      That seems pretty reasonable.

      I don't disagree with anything you say. Heck, I agree with it.

      But

      I tried it. This is me. I have made m

      • Yeah, clearly the problem isn't (just) a lack of will. I'm not a Perl 5 core dev, so obviously I don't know all the details.

        So why couldn't you sustain it? Is there some reason preparing a release is so much work? How do Gnome and Ubuntu and other projects do it? More people? More money?

        One thing I have wondered is why we can't get a few paid people working on Perl 5. You'd think that there are enough companies out there depending on it that they'd be willing to kick in $10,000 per year each to TPF, and TPF

        • Yeah, clearly the problem isn't (just) a lack of will. I'm not a Perl 5 core dev, so obviously I don't know all the details.

          So why couldn't you sustain it? Is there some reason preparing a release is so much work?

          There was a long thread on p5p about regular releases for perl. I think this message is a good point to start reading (if I remember correctly): http://markmail.org/message/w4zbguq4cjitfvcb [markmail.org]

          One thing I have wondered is why we can't get a few paid people working on Perl 5. You'd think that there are enough companies out there depending on it that they'd be willing to kick in $10,000 per year each to TPF, and TPF in turn could hire a couple people.

          It would be great if companies would give some money to TPF. If you look at the donations page [perlfoundation.org] of the perlfoundation site, you'll see that there are not that many big donations (I know that booking.com gave $50,000 to TPF last year [hsyndicate.org] - thanks! But such donations are rare).
          Nevertheless TPF gave a grant to Dave Mitchell for releasing Perl 5.10.1 [perlfoundation.org].