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  • this war is wrong because America is a bunch of imperialists bent on taking over the world

    If you think that's wrong, you may want to pay a little more attention to discourses held by people in the Bush administration. It's not about us calling them imperialists, it's what they call themselves! Just googling for "neo imperialism bush" should give you dozens of links. It's an assertion that has basis in fact, simply because your leaders admit to it, and in fact are proud of it.

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    -- Robin Berjon []

    • You were right. I was wrong.

      J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
      • Whoa man, talk about a surprise! I'd totally forgotten about these discussions, so when the email notification came for this I really wondered what it was for.

        At the end of the day, it didn't matter much who was right and who was wrong did it? How's about we have a few drinks to honest opinionated folks and the hope that it'll all get better?


        -- Robin Berjon []

        • Well, you're right, in one sense it didn't matter. None of us were in a position to do anything.

          But we did both feel at the time that discussing the issue was a worthy endeavor, and you (presumably) felt that bringing me over to your way of thinking was a worthy endeavor, so I thought you'd like to know that at last I do.

          And in another sense, it does matter. I do believe that expressing opinions like this does at times have the potential to control who the sword is pointed at. I don't believe we can ever know if we're in such a situation or not. But it does mean that our ideas have consequences, especially when expressed. And this was truly an issue of life or death, was it not?

          Anyway, I'm wiser later than I would have liked, but there are still many years ahead of me to change people's minds.

          Incidentally, the "Uncle Eric books" by Richard Maybury were instrumental in changing my way of thinking, should it ever be relevant to you to offer someone a book suggestion.

          J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers