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  • That means unless you bought fair trade chocolate ... the ingrediants (sic) in your lovely chocolate bar, coffee mocha or cookie was farmed or processed by a child slave.

    That statement is not even close to accurate, from any facts I've seen. The Salon story says less than half of the chocolate imports come from a nation where some of the chocolate was farmed by children, some of whom are slaves. You say all of it is farmed of processed by a child slave. That is clearly false.

    You are misrepresenting th
    • I felt the Salon story seemed to be blurring the truth a bit. At one point they are talking about slavery, at another they seem to be talking about families keeping their children out of school and making them work, perhaps comparable (perhaps much more severe, though) to the United States in the 1800s. It is unclear if all of the children they are talking about are slaves, or if some of them could be branded as underprivileged and perhaps they are trying to lump them all together to make the slave group look larger. I had the same impression I did when AT&T called and said they wouldn't charge me a $3 minimum fee anymore if I came back -- inquires into why their sentence was grammatically incorrect revealed that it did not, in fact, mean anything, and could be construed as a deliberate lie.

      Regardless, this whole post and the accompanying story were interesting and revealing, and it made me aware of an issue I'll have to look for.

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      J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
      • I have no problem at all with fairly presenting the issue. I have a problem with careless or intentional disregard for truth, in something that is so obviously wrong as saying that all chocolate, that is not from a particular source, is the result of child slavery.
        • Right. I was mostly trying to amplify what you said and suggest that maybe the misrepresentation began at the Salon article.

          Life has been so tough since I realized last year (thanks to some of you people, actually) that there seems to be no such thing as unbiased news!

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          J. David works really hard, has a passion for writing good software, and knows many of the world's best Perl programmers
          • Oh god!

            Its okay to eat chocoloate there is only a reasonable chance it was farmed by child slaves - it may have been produced or farmed by children forced to work by their families instead!

            For pities sake you people spend so much time nitpicking you don't ever worry about actually worrying about the important issue.

            Would you have shouted down those who opposed slavery because actually some slaves had been freed and others were domestic servents paid a pittance and therefore not slaves and entirely acc

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            print reverse @JAPH;
            • For pities sake you people spend so much time nitpicking you don't ever worry about actually worrying about the important issue.

              No, we are worrying about the important issue: getting the facts straight. As pudge pointed out: «The Salon story says less than half of the chocolate imports come from a nation where some of the chocolate was farmed by children, some of whom are slaves.»

              I'm not a statistician, but for the sake of argument, let's say that the probability that a single chocolate

              • The facts are straight - The industry refuses to disclose the proportion of cocoa producedby chold labor or child slave labor.

                Each time you buy a chocolate bar - chances are the cocoa will not be from a single source - its not audited or accountable. Therefore if 50% of cocoa is from a country that suffers child slavery then there is a very high probability that some of that bar is from that country - say 80 to 90%.

                Then because the cocoa from that country is again unaccountably bought in bulk and all mi

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                @JAPH = qw(Hacker Perl Another Just);
                print reverse @JAPH;