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All the Perl that's Practical to Extract and Report

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  • I don't really see why this is bad (feel free to show me the errors of my ways, heh). Why should whether PHP behaves like Perl have any bearing on its merits as a language? I'm always happy to listen to the arguments against PHP, and there are some good ones, but this seems a bit trivial to me.

    In addition, PHP's implementation makes more sense in this case, especially since it is consistent with other PHP functions. If explode() returns an array, I can be confident that I always get an array, and the eleme

    • by jordan (120) on 2004.01.06 18:49 (#27090) Homepage Journal
      • I'm always happy to listen to the arguments against PHP...

      And, I'm willing to listen to arguments for PHP. What does PHP buy you that you can't get with things like plp [juerd.nl] or the various templating systems?

      I've never done any PHP myself, but those I know who have used it are constantly frustrated by the limitations and often resort to Perl on the backend. Why have two languages? The maintenance and support nightmares multiply in that kind of environment, from what I can see.

      Maybe PHP had a place once upon a time, but with mod_perl so mature now, that time seems gone to me.

      But, like I said, I've never done any PHP, enlighten me!

      • I'm not one to ever argue for PHP over mod_perl or the other way around. To me, both are winners, and you should go with what you're familiar with. My arguments against languages involve all of the stuff that begins with J and all of the stuff made by Microsoft. :-)

        Here are some reasons why PHP is so popular (mod_perl shares some but not all of these features):

        1. It's an open source, server-side scripting language made for creating Web applications.
        2. The syntax is very similar to C, so for many programmers,
        • Here I was all set to start a big religious flame war over Perl vs. PHP and you douse it with a cold bucket of reasonableness and solid justification.

          Couldn't you at least say something nasty about Perl?

      • Re:Why? (Score:3, Insightful)

        I think the main reason for PHP popularity is that it is the most ISP friendly technology. They have builtin security mechanisms that allow many users to share one server (what is impossible with mod_perl). PHP have so many things builtin what makes it usable platform without installing dozen CPAN modules what somewhat lowers support costs for ISP (no users which request to install module Foo and module Bar). PHP as platform is just cheaper for ISPs to support. Having said this I must admit that after tryin
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        Ilya Martynov (http://martynov.org/ [martynov.org])